Email from SAASRA

[bloodypassit]

Soccer Clubs of SAASL

On the weekend two of our referees were assaulted, one on Saturday and one on Sunday.

SAASRA will not appoint officials to any club, grade or division again who assaults officials.

The two clubs involved have been informed by our association that we have ban them.

SAASRA Committee have made a decision any person, player, official or spectator of your club assault an official, your whole club will be given an automatic ban.

Quite frankly our association have had enough, SAASRA have zero tolerance for any club in any division that assault an official.

Regards

[English]

Typical gutless SAASL, good on SAASRA for having the balls to say enough is enough after countless issues the past few seasons.

Name and shame the clubs I say! And sorry once again to the men and women who help keep the game running, are continually harassed, attacked and abused by the idiot minority.

[RowePark]

Surely not fair on opposition to have to provide referee or have club referee for a first team game.

[fowler_23]

Typical gutless SAASL, good on SAASRA for having the balls to say enough is enough after countless issues the past few seasons.

Name and shame the clubs I say! And sorry once again to the men and women who help keep the game running, are continually harassed, attacked and abused by the idiot minority.

id say one was Fizi after the reports of players spitting at the referee.. not sure on the other one though

[Baresi]

Surely not fair on opposition to have to provide referee or have club referee for a first team game.

This is true. they should be banned full stop.

[reddevil]

Surely for any team found guilty of assault / abuse towards a referee it would be an advantage for them to to use their own club referee. Therefore, I cant see that it is any form of punishment.

I would expect a lot of teams would forfeit against known trouble causers using their home ref for Senior games?

[WAWAW]

Surely this is a staring message form the referee association and that SAASL must follow suit with the same punishment. They can't continue to ignore that there isn't an issue.

[bloodypassit]

22. CLUB REFEREES AND REFEREES ASSISTANTS
(a) If by the scheduled time of kick off, the official referee is not present, neither is there
an official referees assistant present to take the referee’s place then the following
shall occur;
- Senior (A team) fixtures – if there is no official referee then the game shall not be
played. The League will determine the outcome in accordance with the league
championship rules.

So will this put pressure on the SAASL to act ...

[N5 1BH]

Well someone had to do something, sad it had to be left to the refs but good on them for sticking up for their members.

[churchill]

Surely for any team found guilty of assault / abuse towards a referee it would be an advantage for them to to use their own club referee. Therefore, I cant see that it is any form of punishment.

I would expect a lot of teams would forfeit against known trouble causers using their home ref for Senior games?

The situation of having the rogue teams supplying their own club referee would create a farce and probably cause more trouble - these rogue teams need to be banned from the competition before somebody gets hurt.

[redfred]

be surprised if anyone would play them without official refs.

[legga]

Well done to the ref's now lets see the toothless tigers response at league headquarters....I can hear them now "but wait we fined them $500 Dollars" Get some balls you so called leaders at league headquarters.....

[Srbin]

Don't sell the rest of the league short. There is a widespread problem of abusive behaviour, verbal and/or otherwise right across the league. Many comments have been made on this forum about supporters "giving as good as they get" and the like.

Stop the abuse of players and officials from the sidelines. Make a stand at each of your own clubs and stamp it out.

There was talk on here about a player at a club being sent off if you get stuck into him. Grow up people there are children at these games looking up to this moronic behaviour and believing it is just fine.

You are mixing what you believe to be banter with ethnicities that consider it outright conflict. Stop poking the bear and then asking why it is trying to attack you.

Shake hands before and after the game with both players and officials. Refer to the referee as sir when you address him. Only allow your captain to approach the officials with a question for clarification. Thank the officials and the opposition for the game when its over.

Simple

[Mahorn]

You are mixing what you believe to be banter with ethnicities that consider it outright conflict. Stop poking the bear and then asking why it is trying to attack you.


Wrong! Just can't justify assault because someone called you a name.
Simple!

[Mahorn]

22. CLUB REFEREES AND REFEREES ASSISTANTS
(a) If by the scheduled time of kick off, the official referee is not present, neither is there
an official referees assistant present to take the referee’s place then the following
shall occur;
- Senior (A team) fixtures – if there is no official referee then the game shall not be
played. The League will determine the outcome in accordance with the league
championship rules.

So will this put pressure on the SAASL to act ...

I like this on paper let's hope the teams follow through and not play.

[bloodypassit]

22. CLUB REFEREES AND REFEREES ASSISTANTS
(a) If by the scheduled time of kick off, the official referee is not present, neither is there
an official referees assistant present to take the referee’s place then the following
shall occur;
- Senior (A team) fixtures – if there is no official referee then the game shall not be
played. The League will determine the outcome in accordance with the league
championship rules.

So will this put pressure on the SAASL to act ...

I like this on paper let's hope the teams follow through and not play.

Its in the SAASL Rules and Regulations Booklet ..

[Mahorn]

22. CLUB REFEREES AND REFEREES ASSISTANTS
(a) If by the scheduled time of kick off, the official referee is not present, neither is there
an official referees assistant present to take the referee’s place then the following
shall occur;
- Senior (A team) fixtures – if there is no official referee then the game shall not be
played. The League will determine the outcome in accordance with the league
championship rules.

So will this put pressure on the SAASL to act ...

I like this on paper let's hope the teams follow through and not play.

Its in the SAASL Rules and Regulations Booklet ..

I understand that it's now up to 1. Teams not play or 2. saasl to throw them out as their games can't be played by the letter of their law

[Footballwise]

Don't sell the rest of the league short. There is a widespread problem of abusive behaviour, verbal and/or otherwise right across the league. Many comments have been made on this forum about supporters "giving as good as they get" and the like.

Stop the abuse of players and officials from the sidelines. Make a stand at each of your own clubs and stamp it out.

There was talk on here about a player at a club being sent off if you get stuck into him. Grow up people there are children at these games looking up to this moronic behaviour and believing it is just fine.

You are mixing what you believe to be banter with ethnicities that consider it outright conflict. Stop poking the bear and then asking why it is trying to attack you.

Shake hands before and after the game with both players and officials. Refer to the referee as sir when you address him. Only allow your captain to approach the officials with a question for clarification. Thank the officials and the opposition for the game when its over.

Simple

This is a valid point. The clubs with a decent leadership structure control their teams. They promote a respectful culture to officials and the opposing team. Yet we continue to accept these hacks entering the competition, playing at a cow paddock with no respect for anything or anyone.

[Footballwise]

Who are the teams involved? What division??

[WAWAW]

Who are the teams involved? What division??

Yep.... who are the teams?

Was it this Saturday for the other incident as there weren't many games due to cup round. Or was it the weekend before?

[Redsgun]

According to the catch up results page one is Fizi.

[The real thing]

At last, refs don't back down. Refuse to referee any club that has assaulted a ref. Stop this now & the vast majority of clubs will support you.

[pecker]

According to the catch up results page one is Fizi.

FIZI players spat on referee last Saturday and the week before against Murray Bridge, apparently referee had to quickly leave the ground as he didn't feel safe(Murray Bridge not involved) if I was from Strathalbyn or Southern Breakers I would be refusing to play FIZI away, as they would actually like not having official referees, means they can cheat, just like their 3 linesman they used on Saturday. Referee had to dismiss them due to them cheating and abusing him, so just imagine them with their own club referee as well.
one easy solution, boot the clubs out for good and suspend all the players and officials for 12 months.

[God is an Englishman]

So a club has one person who misbehaves, they deal with it appropriately and you would punish a whole club?

[WAWAW]

According to the catch up results page one is Fizi.

FIZI players spat on referee last Saturday and the week before against Murray Bridge, apparently referee had to quickly leave the ground as he didn't feel safe(Murray Bridge not involved) if I was from Strathalbyn or Southern Breakers I would be refusing to play FIZI away, as they would actually like not having official referees, means they can cheat, just like their 3 linesman they used on Saturday. Referee had to dismiss them due to them cheating and abusing him, so just imagine them with their own club referee as well.
one easy solution, boot the clubs out for good and suspend all the players and officials for 12 months.

Think there were threats and intimidation last week in Div3 (guess who??) where a ref had to be escorted off the pitch by the home team for his safety and also escorted to his car after the game as he was scared.
I think the behaviour is linked to the teams that just can't stand losing or when things don't go their way.
If the refs have banned them and refuse to ref their games they should be banned from the league SIMPLES!!

[English]

So a club has one person who misbehaves, they deal with it appropriately and you would punish a whole club?

They aren't dealing with it though, because it's continually happening with the same clubs. Why should referees and opposition players/supporters have to put up with it?

[God is an Englishman]

So a club has one person who misbehaves, they deal with it appropriately and you would punish a whole club?

They aren't dealing with it though, because it's continually happening with the same clubs. Why should referees and opposition players/supporters have to put up with it?

They shouldn't in those cases but that's not what this email says.

[English]

So a club has one person who misbehaves, they deal with it appropriately and you would punish a whole club?

They aren't dealing with it though, because it's continually happening with the same clubs. Why should referees and opposition players/supporters have to put up with it?

They shouldn't in those cases but that's not what this email says.

We all know this wasn't an isolated issue over the weekend, this has been going on for 2-3 years now, and still SAASL do nothing to protect the referees.

[God is an Englishman]

We all know this wasn't an isolated issue over the weekend, this has been going on for 2-3 years now, and still SAASL do nothing to protect the referees.[/quote]

That has no relevance to my point.

A club could have an isolated incident in one grade with one person that the marshalls do their job and act accordingly and the whole club is practically banned.

[FoundIt]

A club could have an isolated incident in one grade with one person that the marshalls do their job and act accordingly and the whole club is practically banned.

that is a point most have trouble understanding. it is not just 'new' clubs who are guilty of this.
abuse towards officials has been going on and getting worse in amateurs for years.
going on the behaviour of some players in div 1 and some of their spectators we would have had some div 1 clubs banned this year for 'one isolated incident'.