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Dash Riprock wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:The disciplinary system with ffsa is a joke and even so not being used by saasl.

The refs situation will not change. That's 2 of the 3 reasons you have stated null and void.

I haven't seen either of the insurance policies so don't know. Is that insurance even being used?
Then the SAASL have signed up to a bad deal....
Not sure why you think the disciplinary system is a joke.... worked well from what we have seen and you certainly don't see the BS thats in the SAASL with fingers up arses, mass brawls and the like.....
Also not sure why refs wouldn't be part of the deal unless again they have signed up to a lesser affiliation than the Collegiate?
It is what it is.....
Are you saying that the FFSA have no all in brawls. Uni SA had one last year, and that's just the one I know about.

I have sat in on an FFSA disciplinaries for both SAASL and FFSA. SAASL was better, a lot better.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Are you saying that the FFSA have no all in brawls. Uni SA had one last year, and that's just the one I know about.

I have sat in on an FFSA disciplinaries for both SAASL and FFSA. SAASL was better, a lot better.
Who gave you the bigger suspension?

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Are you saying that the FFSA have no all in brawls. Uni SA had one last year, and that's just the one I know about.

I have sat in on an FFSA disciplinaries for both SAASL and FFSA. SAASL was better, a lot better.[/quote]

As opposed to the one every 2nd week in the SAASL?

typical one eyed view of the world but to be expected.....
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Lucas Leiva wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Are you saying that the FFSA have no all in brawls. Uni SA had one last year, and that's just the one I know about.

I have sat in on an FFSA disciplinaries for both SAASL and FFSA. SAASL was better, a lot better.
Who gave you the bigger suspension?
Never had more than 1 game from SAASL, never played under the FFSA.
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Dash Riprock wrote:As opposed to the one every 2nd week in the SAASL?

typical one eyed view of the world but to be expected.....
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I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to find other examples. Merely the one that I knew of, off the top of my head.
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You lost the vote. Clearly you don't have the influence you'd thought you had. Move on and embrace it or make a rebel league with JD and Grosso and whatever other intellectuals choose to come on board

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Srbin wrote:You lost the vote. Clearly you don't have the influence you'd thought you had. Move on and embrace it or make a rebel league with JD and Grosso and whatever other intellectuals choose to come on board
Who are you accusing of thinking they have influence?
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So SAASL went and done it. Affiliation with one of the most undemocratic organisations in the world rushed through by only 38% of the stakeholders for what appears on the surface to be a one sided deal is not exactly an encouraging start. The ball is in FFSAs court now, no excuses, let’s see if they do the right thing or proceed to take the piss out of 80 odd extra clubs, thousands of additional seniors and even potentially a few thousand juniors.

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Vote was 32 yes 14 no's so must have been a bit more that 38% I would have thought.

Its done now so lets see how it all progresses in time. :wink:

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[quote="N5 1BH"]So SAASL went and done it. Affiliation with one of the most undemocratic organisations in the world rushed through by only 38% of the stakeholders for what appears on the surface to be a one sided deal is not exactly an encouraging start. The ball is in FFSAs court now, no excuses, let’s see if they do the right thing or proceed to take the piss out of 80 odd extra clubs, thousands of additional seniors and even potentially a few thousand juniors.[/quote

Get over it, the way the Amateur league is run is worse than the FFSA - what's the point of having money in the bank if its not used for the benefit of the amateur clubs plus the standard of referees is really awful and most of them don't even understand offside

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Mr Red wrote:Vote was 32 yes 14 no's so must have been a bit more that 38% I would have thought.

Its done now so lets see how it all progresses in time. :wink:
32 + 14 = 46, how many clubs in SAASL

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churchill wrote:
N5 1BH wrote:So SAASL went and done it. Affiliation with one of the most undemocratic organisations in the world rushed through by only 38% of the stakeholders for what appears on the surface to be a one sided deal is not exactly an encouraging start. The ball is in FFSAs court now, no excuses, let’s see if they do the right thing or proceed to take the piss out of 80 odd extra clubs, thousands of additional seniors and even potentially a few thousand juniors.[/quote

Get over it, the way the Amateur league is run is worse than the FFSA - what's the point of having money in the bank if its not used for the benefit of the amateur clubs plus the standard of referees is really awful and most of them don't even understand offside
I don’t disagree, no getting away from the fact amateurs is struggling to cope and amalgamation / consolidation of resources of some sort was always the best way forward. It’s done now so we’ll see soon enough if there is improvement or if as some suspect FFSA are just furthering their own self interest.

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Mr Red wrote:Vote was 32 yes 14 no's so must have been a bit more that 38% I would have thought.

Its done now so lets see how it all progresses in time. :wink:

38% I believe was in relation so the amount of people that turned up I believe. I have said from the start that the vote has happened and democracy is the winner.
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churchill wrote:Get over it, the way the Amateur league is run is worse than the FFSA - what's the point of having money in the bank if its not used for the benefit of the amateur clubs plus the standard of referees is really awful and most of them don't even understand offside
and none of those things are going to change under the new system
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Mr Red wrote:Vote was 32 yes 14 no's so must have been a bit more that 38% I would have thought.

Its done now so lets see how it all progresses in time. :wink:

38% I believe was in relation so the amount of people that turned up I believe. I have said from the start that the vote has happened and democracy is the winner.
I didn't think it would get through no matter how many voted, lets hope it works out well for all concerned.

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N5 1BH wrote:
churchill wrote:
N5 1BH wrote:So SAASL went and done it. Affiliation with one of the most undemocratic organisations in the world rushed through by only 38% of the stakeholders for what appears on the surface to be a one sided deal is not exactly an encouraging start. The ball is in FFSAs court now, no excuses, let’s see if they do the right thing or proceed to take the piss out of 80 odd extra clubs, thousands of additional seniors and even potentially a few thousand juniors.[/quote

Get over it, the way the Amateur league is run is worse than the FFSA - what's the point of having money in the bank if its not used for the benefit of the amateur clubs plus the standard of referees is really awful and most of them don't even understand offside
I don’t disagree, no getting away from the fact amateurs is struggling to cope and amalgamation / consolidation of resources of some sort was always the best way forward. It’s done now so we’ll see soon enough if there is improvement or if as some suspect FFSA are just furthering their own self interest.
I do believe Michael Carter is genuine in promoting the game in SA for all the leagues and affliation with SAASL should benefit both parties and will bring another team in the FFA cup comp

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churchill wrote:I do believe Michael Carter is genuine in promoting the game in SA for all the leagues and affliation with SAASL should benefit both parties and will bring another team in the FFA cup comp
Never spoken to Michael Carter so have no opinion on him, however the people below him that I have spoken to are either inept or corrupt.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
churchill wrote:Get over it, the way the Amateur league is run is worse than the FFSA - what's the point of having money in the bank if its not used for the benefit of the amateur clubs plus the standard of referees is really awful and most of them don't even understand offside
and none of those things are going to change under the new system
one thing that needs urgent action is to improve the referees training and knowledge on the laws of the game and bring in younger referees and make the older incompetent referees redundant or make them only run the line

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God is an Englishman wrote:
churchill wrote:I do believe Michael Carter is genuine in promoting the game in SA for all the leagues and affliation with SAASL should benefit both parties and will bring another team in the FFA cup comp
Never spoken to Michael Carter so have no opinion on him, however the people below him that I have spoken to are either inept or corrupt.
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Paleon Patros Germanos wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
churchill wrote:I do believe Michael Carter is genuine in promoting the game in SA for all the leagues and affliation with SAASL should benefit both parties and will bring another team in the FFA cup comp
Never spoken to Michael Carter so have no opinion on him, however the people below him that I have spoken to are either inept or corrupt.
Gee, you tow a fine line GIAE.
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Paleon Patros Germanos wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
churchill wrote:I do believe Michael Carter is genuine in promoting the game in SA for all the leagues and affliation with SAASL should benefit both parties and will bring another team in the FFA cup comp
Never spoken to Michael Carter so have no opinion on him, however the people below him that I have spoken to are either inept or corrupt.
Gee, you tow a fine line GIAE.
2 recent conversations with people on the back of this have incresed the strength of my opinion on this.

Some serious issues the FFSA are facing in the disciplinary space at the moment.
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Was chatting with a sports lawyer recently and his comment re FFSA was that they " have no regard to the law" so any dealings with them will not result in lawful outcomes ..

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with the news that the SAASL and FFSA are under one brand could that mean we could possibly see a SL play off for one spot.

For example

SL Div 2nd bottom vs bottom - winner stays in Div3 SL
Sunday Div 1 champions Vs Saturday Div 1 champions - winner plays the loser of SL play off
The winner of the SL and SAASL play off receives the last spot in SL Div3 - the loser then goes to the league that the winner comes from.

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90mins wrote:with the news that the SAASL and FFSA are under one brand could that mean we could possibly see a SL play off for one spot.

For example

SL Div 2nd bottom vs bottom - winner stays in Div3 SL
Sunday Div 1 champions Vs Saturday Div 1 champions - winner plays the loser of SL play off
The winner of the SL and SAASL play off receives the last spot in SL Div3 - the loser then goes to the league that the winner comes from.
Do not think Sunday Div 1 club, would want to go play Saturdays and then field a U18 side as well.

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Gristy wrote:
90mins wrote:with the news that the SAASL and FFSA are under one brand could that mean we could possibly see a SL play off for one spot.

For example

SL Div 2nd bottom vs bottom - winner stays in Div3 SL
Sunday Div 1 champions Vs Saturday Div 1 champions - winner plays the loser of SL play off
The winner of the SL and SAASL play off receives the last spot in SL Div3 - the loser then goes to the league that the winner comes from.
Do not think Sunday Div 1 club, would want to go play Saturdays and then field a U18 side as well.

That would be their prerogative to not take part in the play off system then.

However, why only 1 down at maximum and if only 1 then it should be only the bottom team.
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FFSA are about to be sued out of existence and their corruption, incompetence and maladministration is about to explode on the national stage .....

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Sacred Noodle wrote:FFSA are about to be sued out of existence and their corruption, incompetence and maladministration is about to explode on the national stage .....
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Sacred Noodle wrote:FFSA are about to be sued out of existence and their corruption, incompetence and maladministration is about to explode on the national stage .....
You been talking with Colossus again? And/or his attorneys? :wink:
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Bomber wrote:
Sacred Noodle wrote:FFSA are about to be sued out of existence and their corruption, incompetence and maladministration is about to explode on the national stage .....
You been talking with Colossus again? And/or his attorneys? :wink:
There's a lot more serious issues for FFSA than that ..enough to have a Barrister shocked and ready to act..

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Not disclosing anything on here and nothing to do with me personally but there is access to some very high profile people

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