Revamp of comp - 2025

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Re: Revamp of comp - 2025

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BeNatural wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:32 pm Dont join those club then. Your have a choice of 30+ other clubs. Join a different club.

But every club has different expenses, some clubs have large facilities they need to cover the costs, other cubs only have 1 ground so limited costs.

The YCC is basically creating a Private vs Public school/academy type situation by having different tiers. Blame the FSA for setting it up and also for the new fee structure.

How do you have fee free football, when the FSA and FFA charge exorbitant fees to clubs and players. Who covers those costs? Sponsors? There arent many sponsors putting in money these days. Just look at the FSA sponsorship amounts in the AGM, its very low for a state based body with 50,000 participants in various competitions.
How do the fees differ to the previous structure? How much have they gone up? Is it fair that rather than clubs establishing sinking funds for their artificial pitches they pass the full maintenance cost onto their juniors when their juniors are probably 50% of the user base? If clubs are employing full-time staff then why is their venue not utilised to raise funds full-time also? Rather than creating big boardrooms in their new developments could these clubs instead create commercial spaces to lease out?

I think the sponsorship model in sport is dead, and in 2025 both clubs and federations (state and national) should be smarter in determining new financial models.

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Re: Revamp of comp - 2025

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Lucas Leiva wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:39 pm


I think the sponsorship model in sport is dead, and in 2025 both clubs and federations (state and national) should be smarter in determining new financial models.
You just ended your own discussion. Its a user based fee structure now with alot of activities and sports, because sponsors dont want to pay.

What do you want clubs do to generate say $50k or $100k a year? Buy a hotel with pokies?

Come up with some suggestions how clubs can generate income.

Why arent the North Adelaide basketball club doing anything to generate income so we dont have to pays $1800 a year, plus we pay spectator and player fees on entrance to each stadium. Its a user fee based system we live in now.

Plenty of other clubs to go to if you want to pay cheaper fees.

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Re: Revamp of comp - 2025

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BeNatural wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:44 pm
Lucas Leiva wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:39 pm


I think the sponsorship model in sport is dead, and in 2025 both clubs and federations (state and national) should be smarter in determining new financial models.
You just ended your own discussion. Its a user based fee structure now with alot of activities and sports, because sponsors dont want to pay.

What do you want clubs do to generate say $50k or $100k a year? Buy a hotel with pokies?

Come up with some suggestions how clubs can generate income.

Why arent the North Adelaide basketball club doing anything to generate income so we dont have to pays $1800 a year, plus we pay spectator and player fees on entrance to each stadium. Its a user fee based system we live in now.

Plenty of other clubs to go to if you want to pay cheaper fees.
What happens in basketball shouldn't dictate football.

Clubs shouldn't have full-time administrators and technical directors who are mainly there to serve the senior side of the club. Why not a full-time sponsorship manager instead?

Technical directors at ALM level aren't even full time. Academy staff in ALM also work in other roles at clubs to sustain and justify. The only full-time technical director in SA should be the State Technical Director.

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It’s a requirement to have paid administrator as per the NPL regulations.

The way the game is going locally because no one wants to volunteer anymore, more and more people are being paid in roles. That is just how society is now. And it will get worse coming up. So it’s a user fee paying system we have.

All ALM clubs have a full time technical director, it’s a requirement of the APL and FFA.

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Re: Revamp of comp - 2025

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Lucas Leiva wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:23 am Have just seen a Tier 1 club advertise fees at $1720 JPL U12-U17 and $1490 JSL U12-U17

These amounts don't include the FSA additional registration fees or a $110 "facilities levy" the club is charging.

These fees don't belong in football in SA.
I've been paying these fees for the past few years, nothing new.

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I hear Metros will be 2.5k (they do pay their coaches though)

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SAM33 wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:23 pm I hear Metros will be 2.5k (they do pay their coaches though)
Fake news, another person spreading misinformation trying to get our players and parents offside.

The fees are a 3% CPI increase from last season, nowhere near 2.5k

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Matthew wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:49 pm
SAM33 wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:23 pm I hear Metros will be 2.5k (they do pay their coaches though)
Fake news, another person spreading misinformation trying to get our players and parents offside.

The fees are a 3% CPI increase from last season, nowhere near 2.5k

:clown: :clown: :clown:

🤣🤣🤣🤣 If you say so… it’s 2.5k plus kit too 🤣

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Re: Revamp of comp - 2025

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Anyone know who the Tier 2 clubs will be?

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Re: Revamp of comp - 2025

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SAM33 wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:45 pm
🤣🤣🤣🤣 If you say so… it’s 2.5k plus kit too 🤣
I guess you cant read :clown: :clown:

For the U12-17 players, that equates to $8 per hour, but if you take out all the items like kit, referee fees, club fees, ground hire, operational costs etc, its likely be to $2-3 per hour for just the training session alone.


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