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Out of interest, when you go on your training courses, what are you taught about defenders challenging for balls in the air?

I only ask because I'm heartily sick of seeing free kicks given against defenders who are actually trying to win the ball by jumping, while the forward is simply backing in and making no attempt at the ball. If anything, it should be the defender who gets the free but, because they invariably make contact with the forward, the free kick nearly always goes the other way.

It's almost like the refs are being told to take as much physical contact out as possible.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:Out of interest, when you go on your training courses, what are you taught about defenders challenging for balls in the air?

I only ask because I'm heartily sick of seeing free kicks given against defenders who are actually trying to win the ball by jumping, while the forward is simply backing in and making no attempt at the ball. If anything, it should be the defender who gets the free but, because they invariably make contact with the forward, the free kick nearly always goes the other way.

It's almost like the refs are being told to take as much physical contact out as possible.
Imagine a team where no players had arms (to "push" or handball). I'd pity the keeper though, plus every time there was a throw in. I'd also enjoy the pre-match handshake. Would they just nod?

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Nice One Cyril wrote:Out of interest, when you go on your training courses, what are you taught about defenders challenging for balls in the air?

I only ask because I'm heartily sick of seeing free kicks given against defenders who are actually trying to win the ball by jumping, while the forward is simply backing in and making no attempt at the ball. If anything, it should be the defender who gets the free but, because they invariably make contact with the forward, the free kick nearly always goes the other way.

It's almost like the refs are being told to take as much physical contact out as possible.
Imagine a team where no players had arms (to "push" or handball). I'd pity the keeper though, plus every time there was a throw in. I'd also enjoy the pre-match handshake. Would they just nod?

Ok, its a silly post but I am pumped full of drugs trying to rid this fucken sickness atm.


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Nice One Cyril wrote:Out of interest, when you go on your training courses, what are you taught about defenders challenging for balls in the air?

I only ask because I'm heartily sick of seeing free kicks given against defenders who are actually trying to win the ball by jumping, while the forward is simply backing in and making no attempt at the ball. If anything, it should be the defender who gets the free but, because they invariably make contact with the forward, the free kick nearly always goes the other way.

It's almost like the refs are being told to take as much physical contact out as possible.

I'm heartily sick of defenders jumping with their arms in attackers backs, then claiming they won the ball when they give a way free kicks.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:Out of interest, when you go on your training courses, what are you taught about defenders challenging for balls in the air?

I only ask because I'm heartily sick of seeing free kicks given against defenders who are actually trying to win the ball by jumping, while the forward is simply backing in and making no attempt at the ball. If anything, it should be the defender who gets the free but, because they invariably make contact with the forward, the free kick nearly always goes the other way.

It's almost like the refs are being told to take as much physical contact out as possible.

I'm heartily sick of defenders jumping with their arms in attackers backs, then claiming they won the ball when they give a way free kicks.
That's cos you're too fat to jump :lol:
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:Out of interest, when you go on your training courses, what are you taught about defenders challenging for balls in the air?

I only ask because I'm heartily sick of seeing free kicks given against defenders who are actually trying to win the ball by jumping, while the forward is simply backing in and making no attempt at the ball. If anything, it should be the defender who gets the free but, because they invariably make contact with the forward, the free kick nearly always goes the other way.

It's almost like the refs are being told to take as much physical contact out as possible.

I'm heartily sick of defenders jumping with their arms in attackers backs, then claiming they won the ball when they give a way free kicks.
That's cos you're too fat to jump :lol:
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what happens in junior leagues when the away teams wears the same colours as the home team.
The away team had no bibs and the home side didn't (or maybe wouldn't ) have bibs either.
What would be the ruling on this?

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always offside wrote:what happens in junior leagues when the away teams wears the same colours as the home team.
The away team had no bibs and the home side didn't (or maybe wouldn't ) have bibs either.
What would be the ruling on this?
Since it's juniors and the result is not that important, you would hope that common sense would prevail and the away team would wear their shirts inside out or something. I know it doesn't strictly adhere to the rules, but kids just want to play.
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Bollocks. Kids should be taught discipline from day one.
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Stupid Mole wrote:Bollocks. Kids should be taught discipline from day one.
Thank you for you considered argument. Apparently the first part of your nick is very apt. :wink:

As it happens I agree about discipline, but they don't decide on the kit to bring, it would be the team manager's/coach's fault. In the instance we're talking about, common sense should prevail IMO and I'd rather 20 something kids got their game than not.
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I referreed a game last year at Under 8's, both teams in red. No bibs were available.

In that instance we played them game, it was a nightmare to ref and watch but the kids just got on with it. We have since always brought our bibs along just in case.

Technically, the game should not have gone ahead but we did and at that level the coaches would have just reff'd the game themselves had I refused. I made the decision that it was better that the kids got a game and I knew that the ref in charge knew what he was doing than calling the game off.
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God is an Englishman wrote:I referreed a game last year at Under 8's, both teams in red. No bibs were available.

In that instance we played them game, it was a nightmare to ref and watch but the kids just got on with it. We have since always brought our bibs along just in case.

Technically, the game should not have gone ahead but we did and at that level the coaches would have just reff'd the game themselves had I refused. I made the decision that it was better that the kids got a game and I knew that the ref in charge knew what he was doing than calling the game off.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
I'm heartily sick of defenders jumping with their arms in attackers backs, then claiming they won the ball when they give a way free kicks.
That's cos you're too fat to jump :lol:
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