unfair

[muts]

why don't the NTC/skiller-whatever girls teams play womens comp instead of playing against boys who won't play properly against them, and then the girls take cheap, unskilled, tackle shots, and whinge like crazy? Boys development don't want or need you?

[johnydep]

Are you scared?

Get your required training/football qualifications, join the FFA and change everything to your liking.

[billy the kid]

It is a huge concern that the NTC squad is viewed by someone in that manner.

His opinion might be only his however, when taking the time to do this post, I would say that this opinion is probably shared by a few others too. Including parents.

A few years ago when the soccer scene for girls / women was far stronger and better run, the girls playing in the boys comp had far more positive comments.

My concern is that the NTC people are throwing in a very inexperienced and possibly less skilled group of girls into a comp where the boys have / are better skilled and competent.

Please don’t take this as offence to the girls however, I’ve seen it for myself and to treat the boys comp as a development comp is not right and disrespectful to the boys. I know I’d be peeved off too.

It might be sour grapes by a kids whose team has been beaten ??? However I think once the groundswell starts, there’s only one ending.

The NTC is not the old SASI group. They were older and more competent and skilled than what is running around in the NTC.

[johnydep]

It is a huge concern that the NTC squad is viewed by someone in that manner.

His opinion might be only his however, when taking the time to do this post, I would say that this opinion is probably shared by a few others too. Including parents.

A few years ago when the soccer scene for girls / women was far stronger and better run, the girls playing in the boys comp had far more positive comments.

My concern is that the NTC people are throwing in a very inexperienced and possibly less skilled group of girls into a comp where the boys have / are better skilled and competent.

Please don’t take this as offence to the girls however, I’ve seen it for myself and to treat the boys comp as a development comp is not right and disrespectful to the boys. I know I’d be peeved off too.

It might be sour grapes by a kids whose team has been beaten ??? However I think once the groundswell starts, there’s only one ending.

The NTC is not the old SASI group. They were older and more competent and skilled than what is running around in the NTC.

Well thought out and said.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head. I have had discussions with people involved at club level, and they are becoming frustrated in the way that our governing bodies treat the league.

It's not so much that girl teams are included in the leagues, it's how the process of inclusion happens. There is no consultation and no information given to all the clubs involved. Each year there are new changes thrust upon clubs, and usually at the last minute; we're still waiting on information for Season 2013, even though this is the month of trials and we have asked many times.

I feel that those in charge can not decide whether the junior leagues are for development or a competition to win. Rules are used and ignored as it suits.

The system needs an overhaul.

[connectfour]

Have to start somewhere, give it another year as development takes time.

[connectfour]

why don't the NTC/skiller-whatever girls teams play womens comp instead of playing against boys who won't play properly against them, and then the girls take cheap, unskilled, tackle shots, and whinge like crazy? Boys development don't want or need you?

Hey aren't you that hopeless referee who went to QLD or some country town in Darwin? perhaps when you can get some qualifications for coaching football you can comment and take cheap, unskilled chips at everyone else, stick to blowing your whistle.

[Left Wing Back]

We have many individually skilled Girls/Women already within the boys competition, Are you saying they should not be there either. I find that the girls need to be there to develop as the State U15 and U16 are in the womens league now.

Development takes time and to build a strong competition takes even longer when first starting out. A view for the longterm future needs to be seen and that we play both womens and mens soccer on the world stage. It should not matter who it is you are playing if you have the skill, structure and fitness you can out play any opponent regardless of gender and Regardless of there tactics.

[billy the kid]

We’re not talking here about girls playing in a boys team. It’s a girls team playing in the boys comp.

From my point of view if I were under 14 I’d be playing in a boys team for as long as I can because the junior girl’s set (not to mention the seniors) is ill set up and ineffective in producing quality players. Good players who have come from the boys comp have taken a huge set back and disappointment with what they are expected to play with.

Its akin to going from SASI to under 14 girls comp. No joke.

Thems the facts.

[Left Wing Back]

We’re not talking here about girls playing in a boys team. It’s a girls team playing in the boys comp.

From my point of view if I were under 14 I’d be playing in a boys team for as long as I can because the junior girl’s set (not to mention the seniors) is ill set up and ineffective in producing quality players. Good players who have come from the boys comp have taken a huge set back and disappointment with what they are expected to play with.

Its akin to going from SASI to under 14 girls comp. No joke.

Thems the facts.

I find most girls that come to me as a coach have never played at the age of 11-13 and join the womens competition. As one of the largest womens clubs in South Australia we find that there is no competition before under 13 for the girls, especially under 6-9, where the development is ment to take place. We find most of our girls come from the EDJSA and that is where our experience comes from but ultimatley the rest are beginners. Therefore you can not compare league as obviously if you field a large group of beginners with little or no experience it will be a step backwards for more experienced players.

However on the other hand the boys have a competition marketed to them from under 6-17 in edjsa and Under 12-mens. I find most kids that come to our FFSA boys teams have at least 3-7 years experience playing and as only one team per club there is plenty at tryouts to field a good experienced team. So there is no comparison hence why the more talented girls need to be in the boys competition.

I have coached in both competitions and there is a huge difference and in my 5th year with the girls it is improving and still has a long way to go. Especially as it is only a few year now been under the FFSA banner and has had to go through a lot of changes. I think five years will see a better competition and hopefully most clubs can start fielding multiple teams so we can have a stronger competition. Our club had its first ever trials last year after many years in the womens competition to start fielding a more quality side for the red division each season allowing lesser experienced players to go to the blue or red division to play with more equal competition. This has seen a better quality being produced in our red teams and will assist the league in time for a better quality competition from our point of view. Last year 7 girls from our club made the state team and this year it looks like a few have made it back and maybe a new couple faces.

My opinion is that the womens league is still a baby in comparison to the boys league and it is getting there. We still have U11, U13, U15 and under 17's and need to grow to get U11,U12,13,U14,U15 & U16/17. The womens league has good quality coaches that are putting in the yards and will get the competition to where it needs to be, but for now the girls need the boys to ensure the quality and reputation of South Australian Football is sound and we have good quality experienced players for both the boys and girls.