Chelsea's official response RE: Mikel situation

[God is an Englishman]

It's libel to use the media to defame someone. If they think a crime has been committed then report it in private to the police who will then investigate.

They've dug themselves one hell of a hole

not a legal expert but I think that's wrong. However, I stand to be corrected.

Ferdinand used the media with Terry, there was not enough proof and nothing has happened to him.

[Derek]

Reports coming out that the Chelsea team are "split" over whether Clattenburg actually said anything. Supposedly it was Ramires and Luiz that encouraged the accusations. Ramires cant even speak english can he?? Or will that be Chelsea's excuse?

[BlackBrian_7]

So let's get this right.

Chelsea captain found not guilty and people want the fa to punish chelsea

If a FA referee is found not guilty and people want the fa to punish chelsea



Does this mean if you report a crime to the police and the person is found not guilty then you should face prosecution?

No Chelsea should.

[Derek]

So let's get this right.

Chelsea captain found not guilty and people want the fa to punish chelsea

If a FA referee is found not guilty and people want the fa to punish chelsea



Does this mean if you report a crime to the police and the person is found not guilty then you should face prosecution?

It means you handle things more professionally.

[bob saget]

Does this mean if you report a crime to the police and the person is found not guilty then you should face prosecution?

If you report a crime by providing false information, then yes, the other party would probably be found not guilty and you could face prosecution.

[Nice One Cyril]

It's libel to use the media to defame someone. If they think a crime has been committed then report it in private to the police who will then investigate.

They've dug themselves one hell of a hole

not a legal expert but I think that's wrong. However, I stand to be corrected.

Ferdinand used the media with Terry, there was not enough proof and nothing has happened to him.

TBF I'm no expert either but I suspect that Clattenburg would win if he went to court claiming that his reputation has been damaged. Terry might have won as well but perhaps lacked the bottle to go for it.

[The Kop]

So are we saying one man’s word against another isn’t sufficient evidence?

[God is an Englishman]

Does this mean if you report a crime to the police and the person is found not guilty then you should face prosecution?

If you report a crime by providing false information, then yes, the other party would probably be found not guilty and you could face prosecution.

So, how are you going to prove chelsea are lying and he didn't say it - beyond reasonable doubt.

It's not as straight forward as the lies in your signature.

[God is an Englishman]

So let's get this right.

Chelsea captain found not guilty and people want the fa to punish chelsea

If a FA referee is found not guilty and people want the fa to punish chelsea



Does this mean if you report a crime to the police and the person is found not guilty then you should face prosecution?

No Chelsea should.

Why wasn't anton ferdinand prosecuted then?

[Derek]

Police have dropped the investigation regarding Clattenburg today.

Quoted from the Met Police -


“Inquiries were made and no victims have come forward.

“The matter will remain as a recorded incident.

“Without a victim and/or any evidence that any offence has been committed, the matter cannot currently be investigated.

“If the situation changes and a victim and/or evidence to support an allegation of a crime comes to police attention, then further inquiries will, if appropriate, be made.”



What a joke. They kick up a big stink and the Society of Black Lawyers get on their high horse and nobody even comes forward to back any allegations up! Just proves it was all because they lost........Pathetic on Chelsea's part!

[God is an Englishman]

What a joke. They kick up a big stink and the Society of Black Lawyers get on their high horse and nobody even comes forward to back any allegations up! Just proves it was all because they lost........Pathetic on Chelsea's part!

The Society of Black Lawyers (how is that not racist?) are the ones to blame here not chelsea. They are the ones who took this to the police and made the complaint despite not hearing a thing.

[Litmanen]

Police have dropped the investigation regarding Clattenburg today.

Quoted from the Met Police -


“Inquiries were made and no victims have come forward.

“The matter will remain as a recorded incident.

“Without a victim and/or any evidence that any offence has been committed, the matter cannot currently be investigated.

“If the situation changes and a victim and/or evidence to support an allegation of a crime comes to police attention, then further inquiries will, if appropriate, be made.”



What a joke. They kick up a big stink and the Society of Black Lawyers get on their high horse and nobody even comes forward to back any allegations up! Just proves it was all because they lost........Pathetic on Chelsea's part!

I'm not sure Chelsea took it to the police? I thought the SBL did ?

JT was found not guilty by police too.

[Victoria's Secret]

I thought a court found JT not guilty? The police don't make the decision if someone is guilty or not.

[Le King]

very poor from chelsea and the players involved, just shows they were sooks about the loss

“Inquiries were made and no victims have come forward.

“The matter will remain as a recorded incident.

“Without a victim and/or any evidence that any offence has been committed, the matter cannot currently be investigated."

[Derek]

What a joke. They kick up a big stink and the Society of Black Lawyers get on their high horse and nobody even comes forward to back any allegations up! Just proves it was all because they lost........Pathetic on Chelsea's part!

The Society of Black Lawyers (how is that not racist?) are the ones to blame here not chelsea. They are the ones who took this to the police and made the complaint despite not hearing a thing.

I agree they were completey in the wrong and must have known they were reporting bogus claims! They probably just wanted some publicity. However as far as Chelsea are concerned this whole incident has made them look like a bunch of clowns. All hell broke loose after the first 24 hours of the alleged incident, Chelsea continued to bluff and back up their comments, then common sense finally prevailed and they realised everyone knew they were talking sh%t

[Litmanen]

What a joke. They kick up a big stink and the Society of Black Lawyers get on their high horse and nobody even comes forward to back any allegations up! Just proves it was all because they lost........Pathetic on Chelsea's part!

The Society of Black Lawyers (how is that not racist?) are the ones to blame here not chelsea. They are the ones who took this to the police and made the complaint despite not hearing a thing.

I agree they were completey in the wrong and must have known they were reporting bogus claims! They probably just wanted some publicity. However as far as Chelsea are concerned this whole incident has made them look like a bunch of clowns. All hell broke loose after the first 24 hours of the alleged incident, Chelsea continued to bluff and back up their comments, then common sense finally prevailed and they realised everyone knew they were talking sh%t

I don't see how Chelsea can be criticized for following protocol. If a player claims the referee was racist towards him, what else are you supposed to do, just ignore it?

Personally i think they've done all they can, but referee's are a protected species, without evidence, the FA will do nothing ( if it was a player there would be a ban for sure).

Refereeing.....It's the only job in the world where you can make constant mistakes and not be fired.

[Nice One Cyril]

I don't see how Chelsea can be criticized for following protocol. If a player claims the referee was racist towards him, what else are you supposed to do, just ignore it?

Personally i think they've done all they can, but referee's are a protected species, without evidence, the FA will do nothing ( if it was a player there would be a ban for sure).

Refereeing.....It's the only job in the world where you can make constant mistakes and not be fired.

Firstly, they haven't followed protocol. If a player claims the referee was racist towards him, the club should report it to the FA and the Police, not go bleating to the newspapers so we can have a 'trial by media'.

Chelsea.....It's the only club in the world where you can make unsubstantiated allegations and not be fired.

[Derek]

Only a Chelsea fan would say that. Why did no players go forward to the police?? Complete double standards from the club! This is nothing to do with Clattenburg being protected, its about Chelsea's poor poor handling of the situation.

[God is an Englishman]

What a joke. They kick up a big stink and the Society of Black Lawyers get on their high horse and nobody even comes forward to back any allegations up! Just proves it was all because they lost........Pathetic on Chelsea's part!

The Society of Black Lawyers (how is that not racist?) are the ones to blame here not chelsea. They are the ones who took this to the police and made the complaint despite not hearing a thing.

I agree they were completey in the wrong and must have known they were reporting bogus claims! They probably just wanted some publicity. However as far as Chelsea are concerned this whole incident has made them look like a bunch of clowns. All hell broke loose after the first 24 hours of the alleged incident, Chelsea continued to bluff and back up their comments, then common sense finally prevailed and they realised everyone knew they were talking sh%t

They are still pursuing with their complaint to the FA over clattenburg's conduct and comments.

From what I can see on this (at this stage) chelsea have done nothing wrong. They claim they heard the comments and they have reported them to the FA. Other people took it out of their hands and to the police.

[Derek]

Quote from Bruce Buck (Chelsea Chariman)


"Looking into the players’ eyes, I could see they were unhappy but no player or staff demanded that we file a complaint.

They gave us their statements. The decision was made by us, the Chelsea management."

[Litmanen]

Quote from Bruce Buck (Chelsea Chariman)


"Looking into the players’ eyes, I could see they were unhappy but no player or staff demanded that we file a complaint.

They gave us their statements. The decision was made by us, the Chelsea management."

"Suppose we had tried to sweep this under the rug and said to the various players, 'Look, it's not a big deal and the press are going to be all over us, maybe you want to reconsider,'" Buck was quoted as saying in Tuesday's edition of the paper. "If that had leaked out, we would've really been crucified."


As i said, they had no choice, especially when the players gave statements saying they heard things.

"I spoke to the players involved, either because they were allegedly the recipient of that abuse or had heard it, three separate times," the American lawyer said. "I asked them if they could be mistaken. I asked them if they might have heard 'Mikel' instead of 'monkey.' I thought I had covered that base.

[Nice One Cyril]

Quote from Bruce Buck (Chelsea Chariman)


"Looking into the players’ eyes, I could see they were unhappy but no player or staff demanded that we file a complaint.

They gave us their statements. The decision was made by us, the Chelsea management."

"Suppose we had tried to sweep this under the rug and said to the various players, 'Look, it's not a big deal and the press are going to be all over us, maybe you want to reconsider,'" Buck was quoted as saying in Tuesday's edition of the paper. "If that had leaked out, we would've really been crucified."


As i said, they had no choice.

Disingenuous with the truth. They had a choice to either do it the right way in private (in which case I would be supporting them), or engage in a public smearing of a potentially innocent man. They chose the latter and, IMO, it was a conscious decision.

Now they're pleading innocence and trying to weasel their way out of it.

[Derek]

Its comical

[The Kop]

very poor from chelsea and the players involved, just shows they were sooks about the loss

“Inquiries were made and no victims have come forward.

“The matter will remain as a recorded incident.

“Without a victim and/or any evidence that any offence has been committed, the matter cannot currently be investigated."

This reads almost word for word with the statement released by the Merseyside police after Suarez-Evra.
As a matter of fact, they contacted Man Utd on 3 separate occasions to seek a police investigation. Not forthcoming.

Not absolving Chelsea for their handling of the matter but doesn’t necessarily mean anything. Lots can occur within the FA sphere.

[Le King]

I don't see how Chelsea can be criticized for following protocol. If a player claims the referee was racist towards him, what else are you supposed to do, just ignore it?

Personally i think they've done all they can, but referee's are a protected species, without evidence, the FA will do nothing ( if it was a player there would be a ban for sure).

Refereeing.....It's the only job in the world where you can make constant mistakes and not be fired.

Firstly, they haven't followed protocol. If a player claims the referee was racist towards him, the club should report it to the FA and the Police, not go bleating to the newspapers so we can have a 'trial by media'.
Chelsea.....It's the only club in the world where you can make unsubstantiated allegations and not be fired.

spot on

[God is an Englishman]

I don't see how Chelsea can be criticized for following protocol. If a player claims the referee was racist towards him, what else are you supposed to do, just ignore it?

Personally i think they've done all they can, but referee's are a protected species, without evidence, the FA will do nothing ( if it was a player there would be a ban for sure).

Refereeing.....It's the only job in the world where you can make constant mistakes and not be fired.

Firstly, they haven't followed protocol. If a player claims the referee was racist towards him, the club should report it to the FA and the Police, not go bleating to the newspapers so we can have a 'trial by media'.
Chelsea.....It's the only club in the world where you can make unsubstantiated allegations and not be fired.

spot on

How did the media find out about suarez's comments to evra?

[Litmanen]

I don't see how Chelsea can be criticized for following protocol. If a player claims the referee was racist towards him, what else are you supposed to do, just ignore it?

Personally i think they've done all they can, but referee's are a protected species, without evidence, the FA will do nothing ( if it was a player there would be a ban for sure).

Refereeing.....It's the only job in the world where you can make constant mistakes and not be fired.

Firstly, they haven't followed protocol. If a player claims the referee was racist towards him, the club should report it to the FA and the Police, not go bleating to the newspapers so we can have a 'trial by media'.

Chelsea.....It's the only club in the world where you can make unsubstantiated allegations and not be fired.

Correct protocol is to inform the match delegate. They did that.

[Nice One Cyril]

I don't see how Chelsea can be criticized for following protocol. If a player claims the referee was racist towards him, what else are you supposed to do, just ignore it?

Personally i think they've done all they can, but referee's are a protected species, without evidence, the FA will do nothing ( if it was a player there would be a ban for sure).

Refereeing.....It's the only job in the world where you can make constant mistakes and not be fired.

Firstly, they haven't followed protocol. If a player claims the referee was racist towards him, the club should report it to the FA and the Police, not go bleating to the newspapers so we can have a 'trial by media'.

Chelsea.....It's the only club in the world where you can make unsubstantiated allegations and not be fired.

Correct protocol is to inform the match delegate. They did that.

Along with Sky News, The Sun, The BBC, The Chelsea Times and anyone else who would listen.

[bapa]

chelski sore losers...........have a little cry cos u lost the game

[God is an Englishman]

everyone saying how chelsea told the media etc... How did the media find out about suarez's comments to evra?