Messi scores 91 goals in a calendar year

[Bomber]

The World Cup isn't the highest level though.

The highest level is the UEFA Champions League.

QED

[Raich Carter]

The World Cup isn't the highest level though.

The highest level is the UEFA Champions League.

Is that a shot I just heard and is your foot now hurting?????

[pernunz]

The World Cup isn't the highest level though.

The highest level is the UEFA Champions League.

Is that a shot I just heard and is your foot now hurting?????

What? A player may only play 3 world cups in his lifetime (some play 4, but that tends to be based on year of birth). You need that player to not be injured for those 3 world cups. You need that player to be born in a country which has a reasonable chance of qualifying for those 3 world cups. And, after all that, they only play a maximum of 7 matches per tournament.

So to be judged as the greatest player of all time, you need to "perform" (And have a good team along side you) in a maximum of 21 matches. Given Messi has so far played 414 matches, and only 8 World Cup Finals matches, you're going to judge his quality based on 1.9% of his appearances?

[bapa]

The World Cup isn't the highest level though.

The highest level is the UEFA Champions League.

Is that a shot I just heard and is your foot now hurting?????

What? A player may only play 3 world cups in his lifetime (some play 4, but that tends to be based on year of birth). You need that player to not be injured for those 3 world cups. You need that player to be born in a country which has a reasonable chance of qualifying for those 3 world cups. And, after all that, they only play a maximum of 7 matches per tournament.

So to be judged as the greatest player of all time, you need to "perform" (And have a good team along side you) in a maximum of 21 matches. Given Messi has so far played 414 matches, and only 8 World Cup Finals matches, you're going to judge his quality based on 1.9% of his appearances?

oh dear....

[pernunz]

Dammit, I've been WUM'd, haven't I

[pernunz]

Goals 87 and 88.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... FODW1onubc

2 more matches this calendar year, at home to Atletico Madrid, away to Valladolid.

I'm predicting 91.

[aussiepride]

Messi is the Second Greatest Player of all time. Diego is the greatest. disregard statistics, focus on talent.

[pernunz]

[The Kop]

Now do a graphic for all left-backs!

[God is an Englishman]

Message for pernunz, footballers aren't decided by stats on a pieces of paper they're decided by ability on a piece of grass.This is why you might know some footballing facts but you don't underestand the game.

[pernunz]

Message for pernunz, footballers aren't decided by stats on a pieces of paper they're decided by ability on a piece of grass.This is why you might know some footballing facts but you don't underestand the game.

You aren't going to get me to bite

[God is an Englishman]

Message for pernunz, footballers aren't decided by stats on a pieces of paper they're decided by ability on a piece of grass.This is why you might know some footballing facts but you don't underestand the game.

You aren't going to get me to bite

It's about education, not biting.

[barcabarcabarca]

sound like you could use some education yourself englishman

[God is an Englishman]

He's no Godfrey Chitalu

[Jay Walking]

One is a striker, the other a winger. Whats the point?

[tstewjqc]

messi superb

[Brian the Postman]

Message for pernunz, footballers aren't decided by stats on a pieces of paper they're decided by ability on a piece of grass.This is why you might know some footballing facts but you don't underestand the game.

Does that mean that you think Messi and Downing are equivalent ability players?

[God is an Englishman]

Message for pernunz, footballers aren't decided by stats on a pieces of paper they're decided by ability on a piece of grass.This is why you might know some footballing facts but you don't underestand the game.

Does that mean that you think Messi and Downing are equivalent ability players?

of course not, they play in different positions.

[pernunz]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010 ... -liverpool

Joe Cole is better than Lionel Messi, claims Liverpool's Steven Gerrard
'Anything Messi can do, Joe can do as well, if not better'

[God is an Englishman]

Messi is the Second Greatest Player of all time. Diego is the greatest. disregard statistics, focus on talent.

I'd currently have Messi at 6, maradona's at 3.

[pernunz]

Messi is the Second Greatest Player of all time. Diego is the greatest. disregard statistics, focus on talent.

I'd currently have Messi at 6, maradona's at 3.

Out of interest, what is your top 5?

[God is an Englishman]

Messi is the Second Greatest Player of all time. Diego is the greatest. disregard statistics, focus on talent.

I'd currently have Messi at 6, maradona's at 3.

Out of interest, what is your top 5?

Have my top 10 and double your interest!


pele
eusebio
maradona
cruyff
best
messi
gazza
puskas
yashin
beckenbauer


Please note this top 10 can change as often as it's likes as it's my list and is very dependant on my mood

[Rob Lozza]

Sándor Kocsis, Gerd Mueller and Ferenc Puskás were better goal scorers.

[Armageddon]

I'd currently have Messi at 6, maradona's at 3.[/quote]
Out of interest, what is your top 5?[/quote]

Have my top 10 and double your interest!


pele YES
eusebio TOP 10
maradonaGOOD BUT A CHEAT
cruyff LEGEND
best LEGEND
messi MUST BE 2ND
gazza NO NO NO
puskas TOP10
yashin NO...BANKS
beckenbauerTOP 10

Where is sir Bobby Moore ? Zidane ? Zico ?
Please note this top 10 can change as often as it's likes as it's my list and is very dependant on my mood[/quote]

[God is an Englishman]

Bobby moore - petty thief who will never make my list. I would have thought the reasons were obvious.

Zidane - unlucky not to make my list

Zico - great player but from that time, I'd say platini is more unlucly to not make the list than him.

[Ernie Cooksey]

Socrates and Careca were better than Zico.
Zidane better than Platini.
Andy Ritchie was better than all of them put together.
Sorry, I meant George Best.
I don't believe in rating current players against ones that have had a full career, but when Messi finishes up, I think Diego won't even be the best his country has produced, let alone the world.

[God is an Englishman]

Socrates and Careca were better than Zico.
Zidane better than Platini.
Andy Ritchie was better than all of them put together.
Sorry, I meant George Best.
I don't believe in rating current players against ones that have had a full career, but when Messi finishes up, I think Diego won't even be the best his country has produced, let alone the world.

As soon as I saw your name on this, I was going to respond. None of them are as good as Andy Ritchie though!

[Bomber]

Di Stefano should just about be on everyone's top 10 list - he'd be in my top 3. He was a freak for his time.

[God is an Englishman]

Di Stefano should just about be on everyone's top 10 list - he'd be in my top 3. He was a freak for his time.

YES, he was VERY unlucky to miss my top 10. I think he'll make the next list and probably top 5.

[Delete Your Account]

Best never played in a World Cup... how can he be there?