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Just dont bounce it, shiraz simple really.
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paul merson wrote:Just dont bounce it, shiraz simple really.
But it's legal to do so, so why shouldn't you?

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There's no need to do it anymore anyway. Why risk a dodgy bounce?

But yes, no legal reason why you can't.
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Bacon888 wrote:
paul merson wrote:Just dont bounce it, shiraz simple really.
But it's legal to do so, so why shouldn't you?
Because there's no point
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paul merson wrote:
Bacon888 wrote:
paul merson wrote:Just dont bounce it, shiraz simple really.
But it's legal to do so, so why shouldn't you?
Because there's no point
There's also no point to stepovers, nutmegs or dummy passes, but they are still done.

I often took a bounce to settle myself, and not rush the kick/pass. So I found there to be a point.

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Bacon888 wrote: There's also no point to stepovers, nutmegs or dummy passes, but they are still done.

I often took a bounce to settle myself, and not rush the kick/pass. So I found there to be a point.

No point to a stepover, nutmeg or dummy :shock: . I thought I coached you better than that.
Stepover: hope to bamboozle the defender
Nutmeg: a handy tool to get round a player
Dummy pass: again in the hope to bamboozle the defender
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Bacon888 wrote: There's also no point to stepovers, nutmegs or dummy passes, but they are still done.

I often took a bounce to settle myself, and not rush the kick/pass. So I found there to be a point.

No point to a stepover, nutmeg or dummy :shock: . I thought I coached you better than that.
Stepover: hope to bamboozle the defender
Nutmeg: a handy tool to get round a player
Dummy pass: again in the hope to bamboozle the defender
Thanks for the proof. Just because one person says it's not worthwhile doesn't make it so.

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so what do you gain from bouncing the ball?

You say it's to steady yourself, how steady would you feel if it it your foot and got away from you. I've seen this happen and with the greatest respect to yourself, to a much better keeper than you.

I'm also going to be wildly controversial here, I am going to take my goalkeeping tips from PM rather than B888. :lol:

Would you not gain the same composure by holding the ball steady, taking a deep breath and then kicking it?
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Why do tennis players bounce the ball so many friggin times before they serve?
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Bomber wrote:Why do tennis players bounce the ball so many friggin times before they serve?

for the same reason they make those GRUNTING/SCREACHING sounds when they hit the ball.
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God is an Englishman wrote:so what do you gain from bouncing the ball?

You say it's to steady yourself, how steady would you feel if it it your foot and got away from you. I've seen this happen and with the greatest respect to yourself, to a much better keeper than you.

I'm also going to be wildly controversial here, I am going to take my goalkeeping tips from PM rather than B888. :lol:

Would you not gain the same composure by holding the ball steady, taking a deep breath and then kicking it?
Fair enough I'm a cabernet keeper. But it's like those people that choose not to wear their shirt before entering the pitch... what does it matter to them?

If I can legally bounce a ball, then if I choose to, it should be of no concern to anyone else.

What happens if you try a nutmeg, and the defender blocks it, and he passes it to a team-mate who runs the length of the pitch and scores??

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God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:Why do tennis players bounce the ball so many friggin times before they serve?

for the same reason they make those GRUNTING/SCREACHING sounds when they hit the ball.
I doubt it
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Bacon888 wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:so what do you gain from bouncing the ball?

You say it's to steady yourself, how steady would you feel if it it your foot and got away from you. I've seen this happen and with the greatest respect to yourself, to a much better keeper than you.

I'm also going to be wildly controversial here, I am going to take my goalkeeping tips from PM rather than B888. :lol:

Would you not gain the same composure by holding the ball steady, taking a deep breath and then kicking it?
Fair enough I'm a cabernet keeper. But it's like those people that choose not to wear their shirt before entering the pitch... what does it matter to them?

If I can legally bounce a ball, then if I choose to, it should be of no concern to anyone else.

What happens if you try a nutmeg, and the defender blocks it, and he passes it to a team-mate who runs the length of the pitch and scores??

Heh I never said you were cabernet, you just should have retired 5 mins into your debut then I'd call you world class :lol:

Yes, you can do and should be able to do it and it's important that the refs punishing it learn the

With the nutmeg, the same as if I get tackled but bouncing the ball is unavoidable. I can also juggle a ball 20 odd times legally BUT would I choose to do that in the middle of a game?
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Otto#01 wrote:little skinny old fella I think the knee brace too . same reff I think
Nah, we had a younger fella - 40's?

He is/was the iggies club ref, but it appears he's got a league role now when iggies are away. He's got a few strange thoughts. This is a really odd one, so if there is another ref making the same dodgy calls out there, there's probably someone out there they trust giving them bad advice, or one of these two has convinced the other that's the law. Sounds like something someone who can be bothered should flag for the SAASRA to clarify to their members.

The other one was when the ball hits the ref, you play on.
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bench-warmer wrote:The other one was when the ball hits the ref, you play on.
That's correct!

What did he give?

I was told that the iggies committee were going to raise this with him and show him where he was wrong. His son reads this forum as well.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
bench-warmer wrote:The other one was when the ball hits the ref, you play on.
That's correct!

What did he give?

I was told that the iggies committee were going to raise this with him and show him where he was wrong. His son reads this forum as well.
Drop ball.
That was last year though. He may have been corrected on that by now.
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What if you deliberately kick it at the referee? :P
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Bomber's Ex Boss wrote:What if you deliberately kick it at the referee? :P
violent conduct, red card and direct free kick from where the ball was kicked.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber's Ex Boss wrote:What if you deliberately kick it at the referee? :P
violent conduct, red card and direct free kick from where the ball was kicked.
What if it's because he's wearing a black top, and you play for Adelaide Uni?

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Bacon888 wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber's Ex Boss wrote:What if you deliberately kick it at the referee? :P
violent conduct, red card and direct free kick from where the ball was kicked.
What if it's because he's wearing a black top, and you play for Adelaide Uni?

I am assuming with the wording of AT the referee, then it would still be the same outcome.

If he had kicked it TO him then it would be play on.
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ball deliberately kicked into referee.

if it occured whilst the ball was in play. Stop play, send-off player for violent conduct and restart play with an IDERECT FREE KICK. It can only be a DIRECT FREE KICK if the offence was committed against an opponent.

If it occured during stoppage of play. Player sent-off for violent conduc. Play restarted as it was stopped (e Throw-in, Corner Kick, Goal Kick, Free Kick for orriginal offence)

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Alot of keepers bounce the ball so they get an idea how the ball sit's up so they can time there drop kicks better.

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penalty wrote:ball deliberately kicked into referee.

if it occured whilst the ball was in play. Stop play, send-off player for violent conduct and restart play with an IDERECT FREE KICK. It can only be a DIRECT FREE KICK if the offence was committed against an opponent.

If it occured during stoppage of play. Player sent-off for violent conduc. Play restarted as it was stopped (e Throw-in, Corner Kick, Goal Kick, Free Kick for orriginal offence)

Really, I'd have thought violent conduct was violent conduct and if the ball is live then it's still an offence. You live and learn!
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I mainly would drop-kick my clearances, bouncing the ball helped me judge (a) whether I should do a drop-kick or not and (b) if I was to do a drop-kick, what I might expect the bounce to be like.
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I have read the rules, they say I can bounce it or through it up in the air I will continue to do so shiraz the weird reffs

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Otto#01 wrote:I have read the rules, they say I can bounce it or through it up in the air I will continue to do so shiraz the weird reffs

What if he's already penalised you once, would you do it a 2nd time?
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God is an Englishman wrote:
penalty wrote:ball deliberately kicked into referee.

if it occured whilst the ball was in play. Stop play, send-off player for violent conduct and restart play with an IDERECT FREE KICK. It can only be a DIRECT FREE KICK if the offence was committed against an opponent.

If it occured during stoppage of play. Player sent-off for violent conduc. Play restarted as it was stopped (e Throw-in, Corner Kick, Goal Kick, Free Kick for orriginal offence)

Really, I'd have thought violent conduct was violent conduct and if the ball is live then it's still an offence. You live and learn!
Thats why Penalty is a Level 1 ref & you are still a Level 5 time for some revision :idea:
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lefty wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
penalty wrote:ball deliberately kicked into referee.

if it occured whilst the ball was in play. Stop play, send-off player for violent conduct and restart play with an IDERECT FREE KICK. It can only be a DIRECT FREE KICK if the offence was committed against an opponent.

If it occured during stoppage of play. Player sent-off for violent conduc. Play restarted as it was stopped (e Throw-in, Corner Kick, Goal Kick, Free Kick for orriginal offence)

Really, I'd have thought violent conduct was violent conduct and if the ball is live then it's still an offence. You live and learn!
Thats why Penalty is a Level 1 ref & you are still a Level 5 time for some revision :idea:

still think i'm better informed than most of the level 5's out there, my dog could pass the saasl's course.

As I said, you live and learn.
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God is an Englishman wrote:

still think i'm better informed than most of the level 5's out there, my dog could pass the saasl's course.

As I said, you live and learn.
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