Do we think either team will make changes?
I hope Finn gets the boot, i know he took some vital wickets in the 1st innings but overall his bowling was poor. Get Bresnan in there as he can bat a bit too!
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bubu wrote:the poms still to have the cheat in their team
God is an Englishman wrote:bubu wrote:the poms still to have the cheat in their team
looks like the aussies will still have theirs as well?
have said it many times already, in my opinion he cheated.bubu wrote:God is an Englishman wrote:bubu wrote:the poms still to have the cheat in their team
looks like the aussies will still have theirs as well?
glad u agree, that broad is a cheat!
You are doing such a good job in the West Adelaide Hellas memorabilia thread today.bubu wrote:the poms still to have the cheat in their team
Stitch This wrote:You are doing such a good job in the West Adelaide Hellas memorabilia thread today.bubu wrote:the poms still to have the cheat in their team
Don't go and spoil things
Bomber wrote:All are in the same boat, but it just looks worse when one knows that you cant appeal via DRS, and the others could. If there were no DRS reviews left, and they were given not out, Haddin and Clarke would have looked worse in that they knew they couldnt call for the bloke upstairs. They are guilty of being silly more than anything, as it turned out the poms had the DRS up their sleeve when their calls were questioned and surely they should have known that and walked anyway. That said, given a poor appeal, the state of the game, Haddin's was almost understandable.
Thats why I said silly, not so much a cheat. What sane person would refer it if they knew they hit it? Can only imagine he thought he didnt.God is an Englishman wrote:Bomber wrote:All are in the same boat, but it just looks worse when one knows that you cant appeal via DRS, and the others could. If there were no DRS reviews left, and they were given not out, Haddin and Clarke would have looked worse in that they knew they couldnt call for the bloke upstairs. They are guilty of being silly more than anything, as it turned out the poms had the DRS up their sleeve when their calls were questioned and surely they should have known that and walked anyway. That said, given a poor appeal, the state of the game, Haddin's was almost understandable.
How silly did Clarke looked claiming he didn't hit it and going for the referral and wasting it?
so broad hits in and stands there, he's a cheat. Clarke and hadding hit it and stand there, they're just silly.Bomber wrote:Thats why I said silly, not so much a cheat. What sane person would refer it if they knew they hit it? Can only imagine he thought he didnt.God is an Englishman wrote:Bomber wrote:All are in the same boat, but it just looks worse when one knows that you cant appeal via DRS, and the others could. If there were no DRS reviews left, and they were given not out, Haddin and Clarke would have looked worse in that they knew they couldnt call for the bloke upstairs. They are guilty of being silly more than anything, as it turned out the poms had the DRS up their sleeve when their calls were questioned and surely they should have known that and walked anyway. That said, given a poor appeal, the state of the game, Haddin's was almost understandable.
How silly did Clarke looked claiming he didn't hit it and going for the referral and wasting it?
If he hit it, knew it, ump said not out and he knew there were no DRS reviews left for the poms, then yes, throw the "cheat" book at him.
Will be interesting if/when Broad comes to Australia all the same. I'm sure the local crowd will be nice to him.
You obviously didnt read the context I wrote re DRS situation. Its like the idiots on the bus pleading not guilty to the bashings, yet its all on video. Are they cheats or just stupid?God is an Englishman wrote:
so broad hits in and stands there, he's a cheat. Clarke and hadding hit it and stand there, they're just silly.Clarke not only cheated but he's worse. He on the faint hope of the technology being faulty stood there after being given out.
As for the locals, you won't hear them over the barmy army anyway, you never do.
Bomber wrote:You obviously didnt read the context I wrote re DRS situation. Its like the idiots on the bus pleading not guilty to the bashings, yet its all on video. Are they cheats or just stupid?God is an Englishman wrote:
so broad hits in and stands there, he's a cheat. Clarke and hadding hit it and stand there, they're just silly.Clarke not only cheated but he's worse. He on the faint hope of the technology being faulty stood there after being given out.
As for the locals, you won't hear them over the barmy army anyway, you never do.
Imagine if there was a DRS in the football WC in 86, England v Argentina - England had one review left before Maradona's hand of god. Do you think he would have claimed the goal and celebrated as such in that circumstance? Then think if England had no reviews left (which as they didnt exist, was the real outcome). If the first instance happened and goal was correctly disallowed due to DRS, would he still be classed as a cheat? It would have been forgotten about in a milli-second due to the correct call!God is an Englishman wrote:Bomber wrote:You obviously didnt read the context I wrote re DRS situation. Its like the idiots on the bus pleading not guilty to the bashings, yet its all on video. Are they cheats or just stupid?God is an Englishman wrote:
so broad hits in and stands there, he's a cheat. Clarke and hadding hit it and stand there, they're just silly.Clarke not only cheated but he's worse. He on the faint hope of the technology being faulty stood there after being given out.
As for the locals, you won't hear them over the barmy army anyway, you never do.
well technically none of them are cheats, no where in the rules does it state you have to walk.
I read the drs part and don't see the relevance. All 3 players are in the same boat.
Bomber wrote:Imagine if there was a DRS in the football WC in 86, England v Argentina - England had one review left before Maradona's hand of god. Do you think he would have claimed the goal and celebrated as such in that circumstance? Then think if England had no reviews left (which as they didnt exist, was the real outcome). If the first instance happened and goal was correctly disallowed due to DRS, would he still be classed as a cheat? It would have been forgotten about in a milli-second due to the correct call!
Coz he knew the decision couldnt and wouldnt be allowed to be challenged. Quite simple really.God is an Englishman wrote:Bomber wrote:Imagine if there was a DRS in the football WC in 86, England v Argentina - England had one review left before Maradona's hand of god. Do you think he would have claimed the goal and celebrated as such in that circumstance? Then think if England had no reviews left (which as they didnt exist, was the real outcome). If the first instance happened and goal was correctly disallowed due to DRS, would he still be classed as a cheat? It would have been forgotten about in a milli-second due to the correct call!
yes it would have been forgotten about but he would still be a cheat.
I just fail to see how broad is more of a cheat because clarke shiraz up.
Bomber wrote:Coz he knew the decision couldnt and wouldnt be allowed to be challenged. Quite simple really.God is an Englishman wrote:Bomber wrote:Imagine if there was a DRS in the football WC in 86, England v Argentina - England had one review left before Maradona's hand of god. Do you think he would have claimed the goal and celebrated as such in that circumstance? Then think if England had no reviews left (which as they didnt exist, was the real outcome). If the first instance happened and goal was correctly disallowed due to DRS, would he still be classed as a cheat? It would have been forgotten about in a milli-second due to the correct call!
yes it would have been forgotten about but he would still be a cheat.
I just fail to see how broad is more of a cheat because clarke shiraz up.
God is an Englishman wrote:Bomber wrote:Imagine if there was a DRS in the football WC in 86, England v Argentina - England had one review left before Maradona's hand of god. Do you think he would have claimed the goal and celebrated as such in that circumstance? Then think if England had no reviews left (which as they didnt exist, was the real outcome). If the first instance happened and goal was correctly disallowed due to DRS, would he still be classed as a cheat? It would have been forgotten about in a milli-second due to the correct call!
yes it would have been forgotten about but he would still be a cheat.
I just fail to see how broad is more of a cheat because clarke shiraz up.
So do you agree that clarke and haddin are cheats then?bubu wrote:God is an Englishman wrote:Bomber wrote:Imagine if there was a DRS in the football WC in 86, England v Argentina - England had one review left before Maradona's hand of god. Do you think he would have claimed the goal and celebrated as such in that circumstance? Then think if England had no reviews left (which as they didnt exist, was the real outcome). If the first instance happened and goal was correctly disallowed due to DRS, would he still be classed as a cheat? It would have been forgotten about in a milli-second due to the correct call!
yes it would have been forgotten about but he would still be a cheat.
I just fail to see how broad is more of a cheat because clarke shiraz up.
a cheat is a cheat!
u cant be more of a cheat than someone else
God is an Englishman wrote:So do you agree that clarke and haddin are cheats then?bubu wrote:God is an Englishman wrote:
yes it would have been forgotten about but he would still be a cheat.
I just fail to see how broad is more of a cheat because clarke shiraz up.
a cheat is a cheat!
u cant be more of a cheat than someone else
Mad_Max wrote:Don't we all wish Broad had walked now.
Anything to avoid another 6 weeks of this cabernet.
Starc call is a bit tuff but to be honest Cowan shouldn't have got a gig in the first test.Mad_Max wrote:Cowan and Starc OUT
Khawaja and Harris IN
Re-arranging the deckchairs