think quick wrote:"You are a muppet mate, players can move up from a lower age group and not from Seniors............." Quote
Ffsa rules page 24 of 39 point 2 d states: "once a player has played for a team within their club, the player may move up and play in a higher grade cup competition for their club but once they have played in the higher grade cup competition they are not permitted to move back down and play in a lower grade cup competition for their club"
....so having read that why do the FFSA still deem the senior cup competition and the junior cup competition separate and not enforce this rule?
As long as a first team, reserve or u18 player plays in the appropriate junior age group and plays one game before the semi final, they qualify for the juniors cup final, even if they are still involved in the senior cup. Fact.
Unfortunately for the regular team members in those junior teams, they are missing out on one of the highlights of the year and that is to play at Hindmarsh. Maybe coaches should select and play players on the the squad selected for the year rather than the selfish need to win a cup final at all cost, especially when it will cost them the respect of their players....and even more so when they loose said cup final.
Some coaches are told these players are in your squad.
Both teams had players from higher age groups in their squad, some just joined at later stages than others.
Well done West Adelaide, you were favorites for good reason and won.
14.3 Where a club may not have sufficient players to field a team in a semi-final or final due injury or illness, a club may request an exemption to the rule by submitting a request to FFSA outlining the reasons. If an exemption is granted, the club will only be permitted to move players up from a lower age group unless otherwise determined by FFSA.
So you can play a senior player in the U15 final if FFSA says yes.
It's right there in blue and white.
You are a muppet mate, players can move up from a lower age group and not from Seniors.............West Adelaide are a very good side, White City on the other hand did very well to get to the final, albeit with a very checkered past, think yourselves lucky, I wonder how many of your under 15s we will see at the club in a few years, compared to West Adelaide, where I believe at least 5 of these players will be playing seniors if not overseas!!!!!!
I was at the game yesterday and was very impressed with the quality of players and playing style of the West Adelaide U/15 team.
Haven’t seen too many games but a number of players clearly have the ability to step up and push up to higher grade. It would be a safe bet to say that 4-5 of those players yesterday or maybe more, would be pushing to the U/18s next year, and you would expect that your better U/15 players push up into higher league and would benefit from playing against players in the Premier League U/18s.
14.3 Where a club may not have sufficient players to field a team in a semi-final or final due injury or illness, a club may request an exemption to the rule by submitting a request to FFSA outlining the reasons. If an exemption is granted, the club will only be permitted to move players up from a lower age group unless otherwise determined by FFSA.
So you can play a senior player in the U15 final if FFSA says yes.
It's right there in blue and white.
You are a muppet mate, players can move up from a lower age group and not from Seniors.............West Adelaide are a very good side, White City on the other hand did very well to get to the final, albeit with a very checkered past, think yourselves lucky, I wonder how many of your under 15s we will see at the club in a few years, compared to West Adelaide, where I believe at least 5 of these players will be playing seniors if not overseas!!!!!!
I was at the game yesterday and was very impressed with the quality of players and playing style of the West Adelaide U/15 team.
Haven’t seen too many games but a number of players clearly have the ability to step up and push up to higher grade. It would be a safe bet to say that 4-5 of those players yesterday or maybe more, would be pushing to the U/18s next year, and you would expect that your better U/15 players push up into higher league and would benefit from playing against players in the Premier League U/18s.
Very impressed with 2-3, star quality.
Maybe they could have been in your scrapped 17 side and your 15 JSL boys stepped up, but then you might not win the league. Great side not being tested in their current league 3 yrs straight. development development development.
14.3 Where a club may not have sufficient players to field a team in a semi-final or final due injury or illness, a club may request an exemption to the rule by submitting a request to FFSA outlining the reasons. If an exemption is granted, the club will only be permitted to move players up from a lower age group unless otherwise determined by FFSA.
So you can play a senior player in the U15 final if FFSA says yes.
It's right there in blue and white.
You are a muppet mate, players can move up from a lower age group and not from Seniors.............West Adelaide are a very good side, White City on the other hand did very well to get to the final, albeit with a very checkered past, think yourselves lucky, I wonder how many of your under 15s we will see at the club in a few years, compared to West Adelaide, where I believe at least 5 of these players will be playing seniors if not overseas!!!!!!
I was at the game yesterday and was very impressed with the quality of players and playing style of the West Adelaide U/15 team.
Haven’t seen too many games but a number of players clearly have the ability to step up and push up to higher grade. It would be a safe bet to say that 4-5 of those players yesterday or maybe more, would be pushing to the U/18s next year, and you would expect that your better U/15 players push up into higher league and would benefit from playing against players in the Premier League U/18s.
Very impressed with 2-3, star quality.
Maybe they could have been in your scrapped 17 side and your 15 JSL boys stepped up, but then you might not win the league. Great side not being tested in their current league 3 yrs straight. development development development.
Personally I'm undecided on which league would be better for development, the 17's league is technically very average and always has been but is quicker than the 15's league. The 15's is technically a good league because most clubs will have a minimum of 5 go straight to the 18's next season but is a little bit slower because players aren't as physically developed as 17's.
i cannot understand what the fuss is all about.
west adelaide were clearly the better team on the day and they deserved the win. white city did well to get into the final but faced a well drilled side.
this team is not top of the u15s league for nothing!!!!
also special mentions to Salisbury and south adelaide under 13s, that was the best junior game i have ever seen, deffenitely woth the $5 entry fee.
I was at the game yesterday and was very impressed with the quality of players and playing style of the West Adelaide U/15 team.
Haven’t seen too many games but a number of players clearly have the ability to step up and push up to higher grade. It would be a safe bet to say that 4-5 of those players yesterday or maybe more, would be pushing to the U/18s next year, and you would expect that your better U/15 players push up into higher league and would benefit from playing against players in the Premier League U/18s.
Very impressed with 2-3, star quality.[/quote]
Maybe they could have been in your scrapped 17 side and your 15 JSL boys stepped up, but then you might not win the league. Great side not being tested in their current league 3 yrs straight. development development development.[/quote]
Personally I'm undecided on which league would be better for development, the 17's league is technically very average and always has been but is quicker than the 15's league. The 15's is technically a good league because most clubs will have a minimum of 5 go straight to the 18's next season but is a little bit slower because players aren't as physically developed as 17's.[/quote]
Why not keep this side together for as long as possible and not separate them? Keep them under the guidance of Paul Pezos, a great player with loads of experience and from all accounts are very good coach. Im sure they would still continue to learn and progress to become fine players.
juvefever wrote:Im told Metrostars Under 16's dropped their age relevant players from 17 and 18's, however, their under 15 side was their regular side. In the end as long as all players are the correct age, the better teams won on the day, lets congratulate them all and move on.
juvefever wrote:Im told Metrostars Under 16's dropped their age relevant players from 17 and 18's, however, their under 15 side was their regular side. In the end as long as all players are the correct age, the better teams won on the day, lets congratulate them all and move on.
they did this all year, in the league too
Clubs with depth like Metro, probably have 15-20 kids hanging around the u18's team. With no interchange at u18 level, some may play only 15-20minutes while others might not play at all. The Under17 competition was heavily weakened by the creation of the 18's, so the next logical choice is the 16's. They're in the A division, eligible to play, and it gives them game time to continue their development. I don't see the problem with it.
At Playford, many kids from the U16s and U17s have been given call ups to the 18s this year due to the lack of depth at the club. Several u18s got pushed into the reserves and these stocks have to be back filled. Kids playing on a Saturday will all still enjoy playing on a Sunday. Its competitive, but with less pressure attached and it gives them chances to express themselves more freely. As long as they aren't taking other players spots, then there should be no issue with it. Both Playford and Metros U16 team fielded players all eligible for the age group, it dosen't matter whether they played a few u18 games or not.
As long as no team broke any rules in regards to age group then there is no problem. It amazing what people will complain about. The club / team has done everything right and still people complain. Players move up and down all year.
SOme of them might of started in U/15 and now are playing U/18. They have gone back and assisted their team mates to win a trophy.
POLONIAROCS wrote:As long as no team broke any rules in regards to age group then there is no problem. It amazing what people will complain about. The club / team has done everything right and still people complain. Players move up and down all year.
SOme of them might of started in U/15 and now are playing U/18. They have gone back and assisted their team mates to win a trophy.
No rules were broken so how can anyone complain.
Dropping players might be in the rules but it still causes a lot of upset and frustration especially for the kids and parents who are pushed aside to make way for the 'better players'. It's not the dropping of the odd player that's the problem, its when you see up to half dozen kids with long faces sitting on the bench wondering whether they'll get five minutes on the pitch while watching the 'ring ins' who have taken their place in the team.
Both Playford and Metros continually rotated on sunday so wouldn't have thought there was too many long faces...........................except after the final whistle..(so many chances!!!)
west adel u15s a very good unit , even before Pezos took over they won the league in 14s too , with now a few new faces that came with pezos this year , so the coach before has a lot of credit to this side too . congratulations to them , as with the cup and league and also the man u cup win here , bright future for westies . now its keeping the parents happy the hard part
