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Two game left for most teams, exciting finish to the season.

1. Three points from 1st to 4th.
2. Four points from 5th to 8th.
3. One relegation spot left between Rotherham and Millwall.

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Come on Rotherham - after so long languishing in the lower leagues you deserve another crack at Championship glory.
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ozzie owl wrote:
swannsong wrote:Huddersfield Town ( 4 ) Derby County ( 4 ) ... bit of a goal fest ..

Millwall ( 0 ) Cardiff ( 0 ) ... bit of a goal drought ..
Bournemouth 2 Owls 2 ,yet another draw at least it wasn't 0-0.
But not as many as Charlton's 18 draws, eh ozzie owl? Imagine where the Owls would have been if just some of their 17 draws were wins... A further 34 points were on offer.

The carrot of 4 points for a win might just get the likes of Charlton to throw off the shackles in the last 20 minutes of a match and go all out for a win instead of settling for 1 point from a draw.

4 points for a win, 1 for a draw should be trialled and evaluated to see if it has an effect on clubs/managers/coaches' mindset.

IMO here in Australia the A-League's Damien De Bohun was pathetic in not going through with his undertaking to trial that in a minor NPL.

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Con M wrote:
ozzie owl wrote:
swannsong wrote:Huddersfield Town ( 4 ) Derby County ( 4 ) ... bit of a goal fest ..

Millwall ( 0 ) Cardiff ( 0 ) ... bit of a goal drought ..
Bournemouth 2 Owls 2 ,yet another draw at least it wasn't 0-0.
But not as many as Charlton's 18 draws, eh ozzie owl? Imagine where the Owls would have been if just some of their 17 draws were wins... A further 34 points were on offer.

The carrot of 4 points for a win might just get the likes of Charlton to throw off the shackles in the last 20 minutes of a match and go all out for a win instead of settling for 1 point from a draw.

4 points for a win, 1 for a draw should be trialled and evaluated to see if it has an effect on clubs/managers/coaches' mindset.

IMO here in Australia the A-League's Damien De Bohun was pathetic in not going through with his undertaking to trial that in a minor NPL.
Con, I have long championed the idea of 4 points for a win, but I would also have 2 points for a score draw, 1 point for a goalless draw and a bonus point for a side scoring 4 goals or more in a game regardless of the result.

I raised this idea in a submission to FIFA 35 years ago.
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Bonus points... you're 'avin' a larf.
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4 points for a win is ridiculous. Draws are rarely manufactured.
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I really don't know which one of those 2 is more crazy
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Old Master wrote:Come on Rotherham - after so long languishing in the lower leagues you deserve another crack at Championship glory.
Note how the league are dragging their feet over their points deduction. I think they're waiting for a time when it won't matter what they do and then they'll announce the points deduction. If they announce it now, Millwall or Rotherham will be threatening court action.
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ozzie owl wrote:Two game left for most teams, exciting finish to the season.

1. Three points from 1st to 4th.
2. Four points from 5th to 8th.
3. One relegation spot left between Rotherham and Millwall.
Wigan are in that chase as well
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Mathematically Brighton And Hove Albion aren't safe either.
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Old Master wrote:Con, I have long championed the idea of 4 points for a win, but I would also have 2 points for a score draw, 1 point for a goalless draw and a bonus point for a side scoring 4 goals or more in a game regardless of the result.

I raised this idea in a submission to FIFA 35 years ago.
And we could make the goals 15 yards wide by 15 foot tall
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Angela Porcú wrote:Mathematically Brighton And Hove Albion aren't safe either.
Can't see that happening somehow though
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Nice One Cyril wrote:
Old Master wrote:Con, I have long championed the idea of 4 points for a win, but I would also have 2 points for a score draw, 1 point for a goalless draw and a bonus point for a side scoring 4 goals or more in a game regardless of the result.
I raised this idea in a submission to FIFA 35 years ago.
And we could make the goals 15 yards wide by 15 foot tall
Four points for a win, two for a draw, goals with no height restrictions... I think that already exists.
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Angela Porcú wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:
Old Master wrote:Con, I have long championed the idea of 4 points for a win, but I would also have 2 points for a score draw, 1 point for a goalless draw and a bonus point for a side scoring 4 goals or more in a game regardless of the result.
I raised this idea in a submission to FIFA 35 years ago.
And we could make the goals 15 yards wide by 15 foot tall
Four points for a win, two for a draw, goals with no height restrictions... I think that already exists.
Bloody hell, you're right. I'm on the wrong forum, sorry. :lol:
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http://blog.foxsoccer.com/post/64230567 ... -losses-to
A recent, bizarre rule change in Tahitian soccer has softened the blow for losing teams considerably.

Tahiti’s Football Association have revamped their scoring system in the domestic leagues so that winners now pick up four points instead of three, a draw yields two points, and losers pick up one point. Yes, losing teams now literally get rewarded just for showing up.

And here’s the kicker: it’s all because they “don’t want anyone to be sad.”

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Madness
I'm sorry do you have a point or is this just another attempt to take to thread off topic?

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A recent, bizarre rule change in Tahitian soccer has softened the blow for losing teams considerably.

Tahiti’s Football Association have revamped their scoring system in the domestic leagues so that winners now pick up four points instead of three, a draw yields two points, and losers pick up one point. Yes, losing teams now literally get rewarded just for showing up.

And here’s the kicker: it’s all because they “don’t want anyone to be sad.”
Aussie Rules have been doing something similar for years.
Time for some righteous indignation

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Rotherham deducted 3 points
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God is an Englishman wrote:Rotherham deducted 3 points
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Rotherham have..
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Reading (H)
Leeds (A)

Millwall have...
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Wolves (A)

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Wigan?

If Rotherham have lost the points, not read that Brighton have been given them.
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God is an Englishman wrote:Wigan?

If Rotherham have lost the points, not read that Brighton have been given them.
Straws clutch much? Good luck either way..........
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Giving the points to Brighton doesn't help Millwall's case so I can't see that as clutching of straws.

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Angela Porcú wrote:
Nice One Cyril wrote:
Old Master wrote:Con, I have long championed the idea of 4 points for a win, but I would also have 2 points for a score draw, 1 point for a goalless draw and a bonus point for a side scoring 4 goals or more in a game regardless of the result.
I raised this idea in a submission to FIFA 35 years ago.
And we could make the goals 15 yards wide by 15 foot tall
Four points for a win, two for a draw, goals with no height restrictions... I think that already exists.

The same comments were raised by Luddites like you lot when they first introduced 3 points for a win. :oops:

Changing the points system in the way I put forward is aimed at increasing the reward for winning and for giving teams some reward for a score draw over a nil-nil result.

FIFA were quite responsive to my suggestion and if any of you have long memories, it was raised as one of the options in their research before settling for 3 points for a win.

I have also heard that they are seriously looking at my suggestion (not that I claim to be the only person to come up with it) and are seriously considering trialling it in some minor leagues in the near future.
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Get your hand off it.
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Moritaka Chisato wrote:Get your hand off it.
And your problem is?
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Old Master wrote:
I have also heard that they are seriously looking at my suggestion

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swannsong wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Rotherham deducted 3 points
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Rotherham have..
Norwich ( 1 - 1 )
Reading (H)
Leeds (A)

Millwall have...
Derby ( 3 - 3 )
Wolves (A)

Wigan have....
Wolves ( 0 - 1 )
Brentford (A)
Huddersfield 2-2 draw with Blackburn....former Huddersfield striker Jordan Rhodes became the first striker to score 20 or more goals in 3 successive seasons for Blackburn since Alan Shearer.
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Millwall were out of the drop zone at one stage but a goal for Derby and Rotherham seconds apart put them both in the position they were in at the start of play, albiet it with one less game to play.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
Old Master wrote:
I have also heard that they are seriously looking at my suggestion

:lol:

I always thought you were a Luddite now you've proved it beyond doubt. :lol:
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