I think the game against Palace showed why Spurs played the way they did. Give Liverpool space and their front three can kill you.
The ominous thing for me is the return to goalscoring form of Roberto Firmino.
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I think the game against Palace showed why Spurs played the way they did. Give Liverpool space and their front three can kill you.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."Victor Meldrew wrote:A decent govt..... like uk.
It just clicked for us up front. They (Palace) missed a good chance or two at 1-0 but the confidence was there. We just a day when our finishing was on point.Nice One Cyril wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:41 amI think the game against Palace showed why Spurs played the way they did. Give Liverpool space and their front three can kill you.
The ominous thing for me is the return to goalscoring form of Roberto Firmino.
Can someone please translate the last paragraph into English ?Champions at last wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:11 amIt just clicked for us up front. They (Palace) missed a good chance or two at 1-0 but the confidence was there. We just a day when our finishing was on point.Nice One Cyril wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:41 amI think the game against Palace showed why Spurs played the way they did. Give Liverpool space and their front three can kill you.
The ominous thing for me is the return to goalscoring form of Roberto Firmino.
Suddenly we have the best GD in the league. With players coming back and hopefully Thiago can get himself settled, things are looking better.
Not trolling you, but Spurs lasted very us lien they do against most teams?
I don't think they should have been doing it in the first place. They're there to play football and should stick to that.Champions at last wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:21 am If the majority (clubs, authorities) thinks it’s the right thing to do, it continues. It’s a democratic country.
Personally I don’t agree with it continuing.
No different from all the players (except Evra) shaking hands before a game (which has temporarily stopped).Bodø wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:38 pmI don't think they should have been doing it in the first place. They're there to play football and should stick to that.Champions at last wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:21 am If the majority (clubs, authorities) thinks it’s the right thing to do, it continues. It’s a democratic country.
Personally I don’t agree with it continuing.
Very different.Champions at last wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:21 pmNo different from all the players (except Evra) shaking hands before a game (which has temporarily stopped).Bodø wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:38 pmI don't think they should have been doing it in the first place. They're there to play football and should stick to that.Champions at last wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:21 am If the majority (clubs, authorities) thinks it’s the right thing to do, it continues. It’s a democratic country.
Personally I don’t agree with it continuing.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."Victor Meldrew wrote:A decent govt..... like uk.
I refer you to John barnes Twitter your honour Re least racist industries. But you don’t do social media, so you may struggle to read through it all. I think Barnes says a load of rubbish amongst his good stuff, but you may well realise there is a huge problem in the game,Nice One Cyril wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:59 pmVery different.Champions at last wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:21 pmNo different from all the players (except Evra) shaking hands before a game (which has temporarily stopped).Bodø wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:38 pmI don't think they should have been doing it in the first place. They're there to play football and should stick to that.Champions at last wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:21 am If the majority (clubs, authorities) thinks it’s the right thing to do, it continues. It’s a democratic country.
Personally I don’t agree with it continuing.
When you are introduced to someone in a pub or in the street, do you kneel or (in non covid times) shake their hand?
I find all this anti racism stuff in football very odd, it's one of the least racist industries I can think of.
Well, when I talk about football I'm talking about the industry, not the fans who are simply watchers and bring all their societal prejudices to game. Over 80% of the UK population is white, but I bet nowhere near 80% of the footballers are and I just can't imagine many coaches or players who care what colour their teammates happen to be.Champions at last wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:57 pmI refer you to John barnes Twitter your honour Re least racist industries. But you don’t do social media, so you may struggle to read through it all. I think Barnes says a load of rubbish amongst his good stuff, but you may well realise there is a huge problem in the game,Nice One Cyril wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:59 pmVery different.Champions at last wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:21 pmNo different from all the players (except Evra) shaking hands before a game (which has temporarily stopped).Bodø wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:38 pmI don't think they should have been doing it in the first place. They're there to play football and should stick to that.Champions at last wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:21 am If the majority (clubs, authorities) thinks it’s the right thing to do, it continues. It’s a democratic country.
Personally I don’t agree with it continuing.
When you are introduced to someone in a pub or in the street, do you kneel or (in non covid times) shake their hand?
I find all this anti racism stuff in football very odd, it's one of the least racist industries I can think of.
How do you know what racism there is in football? It could all be made up, but it appears there is a lot.
The shaking hands before game is supposedly a symbol of respect, the kneel is supposedly a symbol for the BLM stuff. If we as fans agree or not is different but it’s the same, a ‘sign’ for those watching.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."Victor Meldrew wrote:A decent govt..... like uk.
Maybe it's because the reminders that there is no need for racism hasn't worked that they are trying something different.Champions at last wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:17 am We also have to remember that you are an older Brexit supporting right winger whereas I am a slightly younger moderate left, so we won’t agree on this.
For the record - I think the knee is not needed. Commentators should just remind everyone as they do now, there is no need for racism before the game starts and that’s it.
If you PM me a link that doesn't require a Twitter account, I will read it, but I generally agree with Barnesy, he's fairly pragmatic.Champions at last wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:11 am So you still havent read Barnes twitter re the industry.
Managers and coaches in particular- not the fans .
He may be wrong, but his argument is excellent.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."Victor Meldrew wrote:A decent govt..... like uk.
I'm not sure what your political persuasion or Brexit has to do with racism. I think you should take every person as you find them and if they're an muscat, they're an muscat irrespective of their colour.Champions at last wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:17 am We also have to remember that you are an older Brexit supporting right winger whereas I am a slightly younger moderate left, so we won’t agree on this.
For the record - I think the knee is not needed. Commentators should just remind everyone as they do now, there is no need for racism before the game starts and that’s it.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."Victor Meldrew wrote:A decent govt..... like uk.
The fact you need to ask about Brexit is a surprise, but I can’t be bothered debating it- as it’s happened and it’s a democracy....Nice One Cyril wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:21 amI'm not sure what your political persuasion or Brexit has to do with racism. I think you should take every person as you find them and if they're an muscat, they're an muscat irrespective of their colour.Champions at last wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:17 am We also have to remember that you are an older Brexit supporting right winger whereas I am a slightly younger moderate left, so we won’t agree on this.
For the record - I think the knee is not needed. Commentators should just remind everyone as they do now, there is no need for racism before the game starts and that’s it.
So the fact that you're white doesn't change my opinion of you
I CBF trawling through his ramblings, but I accept that he's got a better idea about football than I. However, I ran a reasonable sized business for 25 years so I probably understand that side of it better than him. The problem is, when a black player gets left out or a black manager gets sacked, it's always racism, never performance based, in some people's eyes. I can't think of too many black managers that have been dismissed when I thought the were doing ok, apart from Darren Moore and Chris Hughton.Champions at last wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:48 pmRe Twitter, you don’t need an account to read it, just look for Barnes, however it’s not easy to keep track of it all. But he is convinced there is racism hindering more black managers - and when they are sacked etc. I would think he has more idea than you or me regarding it- but I have no proof he is right.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."Victor Meldrew wrote:A decent govt..... like uk.
I think, it’s the lack of opportunities, and I dont read it all, goes off too many tangents. Numbers interviewed and not getting roles.Nice One Cyril wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:53 pmI CBF trawling through his ramblings, but I accept that he's got a better idea about football than I. However, I ran a reasonable sized business for 25 years so I probably understand that side of it better than him. The problem is, when a black player gets left out or a black manager gets sacked, it's always racism, never performance based, in some people's eyes. I can't think of too many black managers that have been dismissed when I thought the were doing ok, apart from Darren Moore and Chris Hughton.Champions at last wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:48 pmRe Twitter, you don’t need an account to read it, just look for Barnes, however it’s not easy to keep track of it all. But he is convinced there is racism hindering more black managers - and when they are sacked etc. I would think he has more idea than you or me regarding it- but I have no proof he is right.
because they are the poor buggers that dont get a choice,ever. but ALL LIVES MATTER WAS THE REASON FOR MY POST.YouTube Theorist wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:10 pmWhy do working men's sons' lives matter more than anyone else?
Of course they do, conscription ended over 40yrs ago here and even longer in the UK.theorakle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:35 pmbecause they are the poor buggers that dont get a choice,ever. but ALL LIVES MATTER WAS THE REASON FOR MY POST.YouTube Theorist wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:10 pmWhy do working men's sons' lives matter more than anyone else?
Not strictly true. In certain areas, obviously the largest population centres, the NHS is filling up, but the Nightingale Hospitals are not even being used yet.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."Victor Meldrew wrote:A decent govt..... like uk.
Rich champagne.N5 1BH wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:37 am The players make laugh, consider themselves collective role models for social justice when performing the ludicrous knee charade but suddenly become ‘just normal citizens’ when asked to actually do a simple self-sacrificing task like observe COVID protocols to really help save lives. Simply put, they are champagne.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."Victor Meldrew wrote:A decent govt..... like uk.