Joe ‘tax dodger’ Lewis is a Caribbean based cockneytheorakle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:19 amjoe lewis owns spurs not levy he is a yank isnt he. millwalls owner must only be a millionaire but lets be honest yanks are only involved in english football because of the money it generates NOTHING MORE and even you should realise this by now. my worry is that billionaires usualy get their own way on this planet as they are above the laws we peasants are forced to abide by. i hope all players request transfers.God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:15 am
Millwall have a yank owner and I like him so I certainly wouldn't just an entire nationality on the actions of a few people for that country. Only a racist would do that.
Daniel Levy is English, what are your thoughts on English owners now?
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nothing against the free market and as shown they could have still done this if they wanted to but like anything in life if there is enough backlash from the masses the pressure can take its toll and could damage their brand in the long runN5 1BH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:31 am What’s happened to the free market capitalists? Why shouldn’t these privately owned investments be allowed to prioritise their overseas customers if there is a larger wedge to be had. All these luddites holding back progress, for shame. Remember there is no such a thing as society.
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My guess is they only worried about Gov & FA/uefa consequences rather than any English community feelings. Regulatory interference brings a good outcome ?Dave now from No 9 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:41 amnothing against the free market and as shown they could have still done this if they wanted to but like anything in life if there is enough backlash from the masses the pressure can take its toll and could damage their brand in the long runN5 1BH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:31 am What’s happened to the free market capitalists? Why shouldn’t these privately owned investments be allowed to prioritise their overseas customers if there is a larger wedge to be had. All these luddites holding back progress, for shame. Remember there is no such a thing as society.
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agree but remember even a free market usually has boundaries and regulatory limitationsN5 1BH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:50 amMy guess is they only worried about Gov & FA/uefa consequences rather than any English community feelings. Regulatory interference brings a good outcome ?Dave now from No 9 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:41 amnothing against the free market and as shown they could have still done this if they wanted to but like anything in life if there is enough backlash from the masses the pressure can take its toll and could damage their brand in the long runN5 1BH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:31 am What’s happened to the free market capitalists? Why shouldn’t these privately owned investments be allowed to prioritise their overseas customers if there is a larger wedge to be had. All these luddites holding back progress, for shame. Remember there is no such a thing as society.
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Well it's all over now, so it will be interesting how UEFA and FIFA react to the challenge to their authority, they've always taken a dim view when anyone challenges them in the past.Dave now from No 9 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:55 pmagree but remember even a free market usually has boundaries and regulatory limitationsN5 1BH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:50 amMy guess is they only worried about Gov & FA/uefa consequences rather than any English community feelings. Regulatory interference brings a good outcome ?Dave now from No 9 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:41 amnothing against the free market and as shown they could have still done this if they wanted to but like anything in life if there is enough backlash from the masses the pressure can take its toll and could damage their brand in the long runN5 1BH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:31 am What’s happened to the free market capitalists? Why shouldn’t these privately owned investments be allowed to prioritise their overseas customers if there is a larger wedge to be had. All these luddites holding back progress, for shame. Remember there is no such a thing as society.
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a year or two off from euro comps would be a start and send a messageOld Master wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:09 pmWell it's all over now, so it will be interesting how UEFA and FIFA react to the challenge to their authority, they've always taken a dim view when anyone challenges them in the past.Dave now from No 9 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:55 pmagree but remember even a free market usually has boundaries and regulatory limitationsN5 1BH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:50 amMy guess is they only worried about Gov & FA/uefa consequences rather than any English community feelings. Regulatory interference brings a good outcome ?Dave now from No 9 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:41 amnothing against the free market and as shown they could have still done this if they wanted to but like anything in life if there is enough backlash from the masses the pressure can take its toll and could damage their brand in the long runN5 1BH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:31 am What’s happened to the free market capitalists? Why shouldn’t these privately owned investments be allowed to prioritise their overseas customers if there is a larger wedge to be had. All these luddites holding back progress, for shame. Remember there is no such a thing as society.
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Great Idea, DaveDave now from No 9 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:37 pma year or two off from euro comps would be a start and send a messageOld Master wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:09 pmWell it's all over now, so it will be interesting how UEFA and FIFA react to the challenge to their authority, they've always taken a dim view when anyone challenges them in the past.Dave now from No 9 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:55 pmagree but remember even a free market usually has boundaries and regulatory limitationsN5 1BH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:50 amMy guess is they only worried about Gov & FA/uefa consequences rather than any English community feelings. Regulatory interference brings a good outcome ?Dave now from No 9 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:41 amnothing against the free market and as shown they could have still done this if they wanted to but like anything in life if there is enough backlash from the masses the pressure can take its toll and could damage their brand in the long runN5 1BH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:31 am What’s happened to the free market capitalists? Why shouldn’t these privately owned investments be allowed to prioritise their overseas customers if there is a larger wedge to be had. All these luddites holding back progress, for shame. Remember there is no such a thing as society.
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Absolutely agree, hit the dirty backstabbing pricks hard with severe sanctions & fines for each. I wouldn’t complain about relegation, treachery should have a heavy price. Importantly legislate to change the ownership model, doesn’t have to be like the krauts but with similar intent. Also transfer bans imposed, no more 30 year old chelsea players allowed to Arsenal would be a good start
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Joe Lewis was born in Bow so not sure when the east end became americatheorakle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:19 amjoe lewis owns spurs not levy he is a yank isnt he. millwalls owner must only be a millionaire but lets be honest yanks are only involved in english football because of the money it generates NOTHING MORE and even you should realise this by now. my worry is that billionaires usualy get their own way on this planet as they are above the laws we peasants are forced to abide by. i hope all players request transfers.God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:15 am
Millwall have a yank owner and I like him so I certainly wouldn't just an entire nationality on the actions of a few people for that country. Only a racist would do that.
Daniel Levy is English, what are your thoughts on English owners now?
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theorakle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:19 amjoe lewis owns spurs not levy he is a yank isnt he. millwalls owner must only be a millionaire but lets be honest yanks are only involved in english football because of the money it generates NOTHING MORE and even you should realise this by now. my worry is that billionaires usualy get their own way on this planet as they are above the laws we peasants are forced to abide by. i hope all players request transfers.God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:15 am
Millwall have a yank owner and I like him so I certainly wouldn't just an entire nationality on the actions of a few people for that country. Only a racist would do that.
Daniel Levy is English, what are your thoughts on English owners now?
Joe Lewis is a Londoner.
Once again, you are judging an entire nation by the attitude of 2 people. RACIST.
Of The 6 we have
2 x yanks
2 x Russians
1 x Englishman
1 x Abu Dhabi
Why do you only have an issue with one of the nationalities?
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why. cos yanks take money out of clubs the others put money in ok.God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:50 pmtheorakle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:19 amjoe lewis owns spurs not levy he is a yank isnt he. millwalls owner must only be a millionaire but lets be honest yanks are only involved in english football because of the money it generates NOTHING MORE and even you should realise this by now. my worry is that billionaires usualy get their own way on this planet as they are above the laws we peasants are forced to abide by. i hope all players request transfers.God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:15 am
Millwall have a yank owner and I like him so I certainly wouldn't just an entire nationality on the actions of a few people for that country. Only a racist would do that.
Daniel Levy is English, what are your thoughts on English owners now?
Joe Lewis is a Londoner.
Once again, you are judging an entire nation by the attitude of 2 people. RACIST.
Of The 6 we have
2 x yanks
2 x Russians
1 x Englishman
1 x Abu Dhabi
Why do you only have an issue with one of the nationalities?
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The 12 clubs should face some severe penalties , maybe 2 year transfer ban ? That will keep them quiet for a while.N5 1BH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:04 pm Absolutely agree, hit the dirty backstabbing pricks hard with severe sanctions & fines for each. I wouldn’t complain about relegation, treachery should have a heavy price. Importantly legislate to change the ownership model, doesn’t have to be like the krauts but with similar intent. Also transfer bans imposed, no more 30 year old chelsea players allowed to Arsenal would be a good start
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John Berylson has put a lot of money into his club. But you don't like him because of his nationality. That's racism.theorakle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:30 pmwhy. cos yanks take money out of clubs the others put money in ok.God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:50 pmtheorakle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:19 amjoe lewis owns spurs not levy he is a yank isnt he. millwalls owner must only be a millionaire but lets be honest yanks are only involved in english football because of the money it generates NOTHING MORE and even you should realise this by now. my worry is that billionaires usualy get their own way on this planet as they are above the laws we peasants are forced to abide by. i hope all players request transfers.God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:15 am
Millwall have a yank owner and I like him so I certainly wouldn't just an entire nationality on the actions of a few people for that country. Only a racist would do that.
Daniel Levy is English, what are your thoughts on English owners now?
Joe Lewis is a Londoner.
Once again, you are judging an entire nation by the attitude of 2 people. RACIST.
Of The 6 we have
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Whilst I share the same sentiments, they should all be shoved into Div 4, it won't happen. Nothing will happen because the powers that be really aren't that powerful, the fans have a certain amount of power because football with empty stadia just isn't sellable and clubs still like the matchday revenue.N5 1BH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:04 pm Absolutely agree, hit the dirty backstabbing pricks hard with severe sanctions & fines for each. I wouldn’t complain about relegation, treachery should have a heavy price. Importantly legislate to change the ownership model, doesn’t have to be like the krauts but with similar intent. Also transfer bans imposed, no more 30 year old chelsea players allowed to Arsenal would be a good start
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No rules were broken so it will be interesting what justification you have for your idea.
I was anti the idea but what you want has no legal merit.
I was anti the idea but what you want has no legal merit.
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Bringing the game into disrepute.Champions at last wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:07 am No rules were broken so it will be interesting what justification you have for your idea.
I was anti the idea but what you want has no legal merit.
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They secretly signed legal contracts to form a league / cartel separate from and detrimental to the various competitions they are already obligated to. If that’s not a serious breach of their current contracts then what isChampions at last wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:07 am No rules were broken so it will be interesting what justification you have for your idea.
I was anti the idea but what you want has no legal merit.
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They wanted to still play in the domestic league. The FA/PL wouldn't have a leg to stand on trying to punish them.
(again I am not defending them)
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The contract is to play in the PLN5 1BH wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:33 amThey secretly signed legal contracts to form a league / cartel separate from and detrimental to the various competitions they are already obligated to. If that’s not a serious breach of their current contracts then what isChampions at last wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:07 am No rules were broken so it will be interesting what justification you have for your idea.
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Champions at last wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:11 pmThe contract is to play in the PLN5 1BH wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:33 amThey secretly signed legal contracts to form a league / cartel separate from and detrimental to the various competitions they are already obligated to. If that’s not a serious breach of their current contracts then what isChampions at last wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:07 am No rules were broken so it will be interesting what justification you have for your idea.
I was anti the idea but what you want has no legal merit.
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L.9. Except with the prior written approval of the Board, during the Season a Club shall not enter or play its senior men’s first team in any competition other than:
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They didn't play any games during the season. If they had then they could be punished. and they hadn't yet entered one, they showed intent to do so.during the Season a Club shall not enter or play its senior men’s
they didn't want to play in UEFA competitionsL.11. Qualification for UEFA Club Competitions shall be on sporting merit through domestic competitions controlled or sanctioned by The Football Association. Clubs qualifying for a UEFA Club Competition must apply for a UEFA Club Licence in accordance with the Licensing Manual.
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if Man City can get away with FFP breaches, I am sure these clubs have nothing to worry about.
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Just remember the 6 EPL sides part of ESL were also part of Project Big Picture , didn’t learn from their first failed grab at power and wealth . Time for changes so that this never happens again .
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Love how the ones on here disgusted by the Euro super league break off also support Adelaide United and the a league
The Super league would have concentrated all the money in football toward a handful of invitation only big clubs. That would leave clubs like Everton, Aston Villa, Sheffield Wednesday to be player farms feeding these big clubs in the hope the big clubs throw them some scraps for their efforts. What a miserly existence.
Exactly like the A league. Yet still we have supporters in Oz with NFI. What a pathetic place football in this country has become
The Super league would have concentrated all the money in football toward a handful of invitation only big clubs. That would leave clubs like Everton, Aston Villa, Sheffield Wednesday to be player farms feeding these big clubs in the hope the big clubs throw them some scraps for their efforts. What a miserly existence.
Exactly like the A league. Yet still we have supporters in Oz with NFI. What a pathetic place football in this country has become
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No idea , comparing England 60m people , number one sport , EPL richest league in the world saturation media coverage and multi billion dollar tv deals .MetroStars TV Ad wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:56 am Love how the ones on here disgusted by the Euro super league break off also support Adelaide United and the a league
The Super league would have concentrated all the money in football toward a handful of invitation only big clubs. That would leave clubs like Everton, Aston Villa, Sheffield Wednesday to be player farms feeding these big clubs in the hope the big clubs throw them some scraps for their efforts. What a miserly existence.
Exactly like the A league. Yet still we have supporters in Oz with NFI. What a pathetic place football in this country has become
Australia , 25m people, football number 4th sport here, virtual media blackout and small tv deals .
That’s what I call no idea .
You do realise that the A League was born out of a slowly dying NSL competition .
Before you say I’m not anti NSL , I watched it from season one to the end.
Please tell me how many clubs in Adelaide could genuinely sustain themselves in a national competition ?
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You've had it explained before. You're a morøn.ozzie owl wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:15 amNo idea , comparing England 60m people , number one sport , EPL richest league in the world saturation media coverage and multi billion dollar tv deals .MetroStars TV Ad wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:56 am Love how the ones on here disgusted by the Euro super league break off also support Adelaide United and the a league
The Super league would have concentrated all the money in football toward a handful of invitation only big clubs. That would leave clubs like Everton, Aston Villa, Sheffield Wednesday to be player farms feeding these big clubs in the hope the big clubs throw them some scraps for their efforts. What a miserly existence.
Exactly like the A league. Yet still we have supporters in Oz with NFI. What a pathetic place football in this country has become
Australia , 25m people, football number 4th sport here, virtual media blackout and small tv deals .
That’s what I call no idea .
You do realise that the A League was born out of a slowly dying NSL competition .
Before you say I’m not anti NSL , I watched it from season one to the end.
Please tell me how many clubs in Adelaide could genuinely sustain themselves in a national competition ?
One closed exclusive system bad
Another closed exclusive system good
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Please explain how your fully funded model is going to work.MetroStars TV Ad wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:38 amYou've had it explained before. You're a morøn.ozzie owl wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:15 amNo idea , comparing England 60m people , number one sport , EPL richest league in the world saturation media coverage and multi billion dollar tv deals .MetroStars TV Ad wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:56 am Love how the ones on here disgusted by the Euro super league break off also support Adelaide United and the a league
The Super league would have concentrated all the money in football toward a handful of invitation only big clubs. That would leave clubs like Everton, Aston Villa, Sheffield Wednesday to be player farms feeding these big clubs in the hope the big clubs throw them some scraps for their efforts. What a miserly existence.
Exactly like the A league. Yet still we have supporters in Oz with NFI. What a pathetic place football in this country has become
Australia , 25m people, football number 4th sport here, virtual media blackout and small tv deals .
That’s what I call no idea .
You do realise that the A League was born out of a slowly dying NSL competition .
Before you say I’m not anti NSL , I watched it from season one to the end.
Please tell me how many clubs in Adelaide could genuinely sustain themselves in a national competition ?
One closed exclusive system bad
Another closed exclusive system good