Nice One Cyril wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:48 am
Southgate showing his true colours, only picked Maddison because of public pressure but has zero intention of actually using him, didn't make the subs bench in the first two games.
Agree Cyril, he has no ambition at all. Continues to roll out Mount, game in the balance this morning & he brings on Henderson.. Foden didn't get on the bus today??
When Harry Maguire is your best player sums up how ambitious is Southgate .
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:27 pm
Disappointing but not the end of the world, we can lose 3-0 to wales and still go through.
True, but not really the point. If we have pretentions to go deep in the WC, we should be performing better than that against a solid, but uninspiring USA.
IMO Mount has never shown enough to be selected, he offers very little except the occasional shot and Sterling is just woeful against even halfway decent opposition. We can't do much about our dodgy defenders, but replace those two and we just might have a chance. And not with Henderson and Phillips.
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Nice One Cyril wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:48 am
Southgate showing his true colours, only picked Maddison because of public pressure but has zero intention of actually using him, didn't make the subs bench in the first two games.
Isn’t Maddison injured?
Unless it was serving half time drinks, how can he be injured, he hasn't played?
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"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
i wouldnt be too critical even though the fans boo'd the team and England have never beaten the USA in a WC game....1st objective is always to get out of the group stage...which it will....maybe Foden and Maddison are being 'saved' for the knock-outs...
“Hence, we will not say that Greeks fight like heroes, but that heroes fight like Greeks." Winston Churchill
Nice One Cyril wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:48 am
Southgate showing his true colours, only picked Maddison because of public pressure but has zero intention of actually using him, didn't make the subs bench in the first two games.
Isn’t Maddison injured?
Unless it was serving half time drinks, how can he be injured, he hasn't played?
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:27 pm
Disappointing but not the end of the world, we can lose 3-0 to wales and still go through.
True, but not really the point. If we have pretentions to go deep in the WC, we should be performing better than that against a solid, but uninspiring USA.
IMO Mount has never shown enough to be selected, he offers very little except the occasional shot and Sterling is just woeful against even halfway decent opposition. We can't do much about our dodgy defenders, but replace those two and we just might have a chance. And not with Henderson and Phillips.
It's not how you start a world cup campaign, it's how you finish one.
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:27 pm
Disappointing but not the end of the world, we can lose 3-0 to wales and still go through.
True, but not really the point. If we have pretentions to go deep in the WC, we should be performing better than that against a solid, but uninspiring USA.
IMO Mount has never shown enough to be selected, he offers very little except the occasional shot and Sterling is just woeful against even halfway decent opposition. We can't do much about our dodgy defenders, but replace those two and we just might have a chance. And not with Henderson and Phillips.
It's not how you start a world cup campaign, it's how you finish one.
Again true, but a very simplistic view of things. Trot out all the cliches you want but teams that consistently play well tend to be the ones that win things and teams that consistently play rubbish don't. It's why Millwall are where they are
Victor Meldrew wrote:A decent govt..... like uk.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:27 pm
Disappointing but not the end of the world, we can lose 3-0 to wales and still go through.
True, but not really the point. If we have pretentions to go deep in the WC, we should be performing better than that against a solid, but uninspiring USA.
IMO Mount has never shown enough to be selected, he offers very little except the occasional shot and Sterling is just woeful against even halfway decent opposition. We can't do much about our dodgy defenders, but replace those two and we just might have a chance. And not with Henderson and Phillips.
It's not how you start a world cup campaign, it's how you finish one.
Again true, but a very simplistic view of things. Trot out all the cliches you want but teams that consistently play well tend to be the ones that win things and teams that consistently play rubbish don't. It's why Millwall are where they are
Sitting comfortably in a play off spot. I agree.
It might be simplistic but at this stage all you have to do is get to the next round.
Hard to believe Lewandowski just scored his first goal at a WC. After all the goal scoring records, he has in his playing career.
Just for perspective Tim Cahill has 5 and Mile Jedinak has 3
eagleboy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:52 am
Hard to believe Lewandowski just scored his first goal at a WC. After all the goal scoring records, he has in his playing career.
Just for perspective Tim Cahill has 5 and Mile Jedinak has 3
Certainly not through lack of trying!
Happy for him and you can tell how much it was playing on his mind - especially after he hit the post in the 2nd half.
Great result for the Poles - snag a result against the Argies and we're through!
N5 1BH wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:18 pm
Fair play Australia dug it out, what the WC is all about. It’s still in their hands.
#FuckoffSouthgate
The desperation showed by each player was really impressive - fantastic performance from big Harry at the back!
Tunisia were disappointing though
Their shooting was erratic. On another day they may have scored 3 but would of, could of, it didn't happen. C'mon Aussies.
Impressed with Souter after he has just come back from a reco. Arnie got his tactics right for once.
not sure about that......not in the final 20 minutes anyway....knowing Tunisia would be pushing and we were defending on the edge of our 18yd box, he changes 3 attackers and an attacking midfielder for 3 attackers and an attacking midfielder....given the second half we were playing on the counter anyway, shore up the midfield!!! I hate seeing attacking players defending deep.....give away stupid free kicks/penalties
“Hence, we will not say that Greeks fight like heroes, but that heroes fight like Greeks." Winston Churchill
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:27 pm
Disappointing but not the end of the world, we can lose 3-0 to wales and still go through.
True, but not really the point. If we have pretentions to go deep in the WC, we should be performing better than that against a solid, but uninspiring USA.
IMO Mount has never shown enough to be selected, he offers very little except the occasional shot and Sterling is just woeful against even halfway decent opposition. We can't do much about our dodgy defenders, but replace those two and we just might have a chance. And not with Henderson and Phillips.
This is an interesting post as you are basically saying you don't rate at least 6 of England's players. If this was the case how can you seriously rate them as 'having a chance'?
Kane and Pickford for me are England's two main stays, Foden has huge potential and should be getting serious game time though Grealish (for all his talent) appears to be a passenger.
I am interested to see how your first eleven would look. Nice on paper writing down all the attacking minded players in midfield but as we know there has to be a balance.
Southgate getting lots of stick following USA game but where was the praise after the Iran game? And don't say it was 'just' Iran and the result was expected, they showed against Wales they are more than capable on their day.
I do agree that Southgate is not the most inspiring at times but he does seem to get the backing of the players.
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:27 pm
Disappointing but not the end of the world, we can lose 3-0 to wales and still go through.
True, but not really the point. If we have pretentions to go deep in the WC, we should be performing better than that against a solid, but uninspiring USA.
IMO Mount has never shown enough to be selected, he offers very little except the occasional shot and Sterling is just woeful against even halfway decent opposition. We can't do much about our dodgy defenders, but replace those two and we just might have a chance. And not with Henderson and Phillips.
This is an interesting post as you are basically saying you don't rate at least 6 of England's players. If this was the case how can you seriously rate them as 'having a chance'?
Kane and Pickford for me are England's two main stays, Foden has huge potential and should be getting serious game time though Grealish (for all his talent) appears to be a passenger.
I am interested to see how your first eleven would look. Nice on paper writing down all the attacking minded players in midfield but as we know there has to be a balance.
Southgate getting lots of stick following USA game but where was the praise after the Iran game? And don't say it was 'just' Iran and the result was expected, they showed against Wales they are more than capable on their day.
I do agree that Southgate is not the most inspiring at times but he does seem to get the backing of the players.
Agree about Foden but I think we looked most dangerous when Grealish came on.
Fantastic result by our guys,good team effort,although i had a heart attack at end of game when we sat back.Denmark lost but played a very impressive game against France,we better play at same level next game also.I hope French dont come out with reserve team to rest top players for round of 16 & Tunisia beat them.
Last night's game was the highest viewed program for the week on TV
National average of 1.726 million Australians watched the game.... this figure doesn't include the people that watched the game at clubs, cinemas etc ...
C U Next Saturday wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:15 pm
Last night's game was the highest viewed program for the week on TV
National average of 1.726 million Australians watched the game.... this figure doesn't include the people that watched the game at clubs, cinemas etc ...
Poor Cornesy and Ken bloody Cunnington didn’t even know wot time the fu.kking game wuz on during their “all-sports” Saturday morning program on radio FiveAAFL.
The faar.k.ing di.c.k.h.eads!
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:27 pm
Disappointing but not the end of the world, we can lose 3-0 to wales and still go through.
True, but not really the point. If we have pretentions to go deep in the WC, we should be performing better than that against a solid, but uninspiring USA.
IMO Mount has never shown enough to be selected, he offers very little except the occasional shot and Sterling is just woeful against even halfway decent opposition. We can't do much about our dodgy defenders, but replace those two and we just might have a chance. And not with Henderson and Phillips.
This is an interesting post as you are basically saying you don't rate at least 6 of England's players. If this was the case how can you seriously rate them as 'having a chance'?
Kane and Pickford for me are England's two main stays, Foden has huge potential and should be getting serious game time though Grealish (for all his talent) appears to be a passenger.
I am interested to see how your first eleven would look. Nice on paper writing down all the attacking minded players in midfield but as we know there has to be a balance.
Southgate getting lots of stick following USA game but where was the praise after the Iran game? And don't say it was 'just' Iran and the result was expected, they showed against Wales they are more than capable on their day.
I do agree that Southgate is not the most inspiring at times but he does seem to get the backing of the players.
"Don't rate" is a little harsh, but remember this is the national team we're talking about here, and it was only Iran, who still scored two against us and we were hanging on against the US as well.
Pickford is good, but he's prone to rashness and my personal opinion is that Ramsdale just shades him. Out of our back four, the only one I think is good enough to play against a top level attack is Stones. Maguire's OK if you're banging long balls at him, he's big and strong and great in the air, but run at him and he's in trouble, he has the turning circle of the QEII, so I'd play White with Stones. Not overly sold on Shaw and Trippier as a pair either, Walker's a better defender than both, but I think Shaw's the only natural lefty we have, so it's either him or Trips at LB. Saka's good and I like Rice and Bellingham, but neither are especially creative, so I'd play Maddison instead of Sterling and Grealish or Foden instead of Mount, with Kane up top.
Victor Meldrew wrote:A decent govt..... like uk.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
