World Cup 2022 Forum

[eagleboy]

Hey Polonia!

Cutting it fine

That 2nd half was so difficult to sit through.
Proud of the team to get through to the knockout stage but now it's Les Bleus to deal with

Absolutely outplayed but snuck in. Pen was a bit dodgy but keeper saved, so no biggie in the end.

Just hope they at least have a crack against France and give Lewandowski some help up front.

As much as Australia and Polska have done well enough to make the last 16, realistically it will be the end of the road, but minimum was achieved at least (going past group stage).

It is possible for Poland v England quarter final?

Firstly, we would have to "dope" the French drinking water.

Just a thought, I'm thinking now we are up against France that the english would have been barracking for us two games in a row?

When the Poles were up on yellow cards it reminded me of England winning the cricket WC on a technical point against NZ.

[God is an Englishman]

Hey Polonia!

Cutting it fine

That 2nd half was so difficult to sit through.
Proud of the team to get through to the knockout stage but now it's Les Bleus to deal with

Absolutely outplayed but snuck in. Pen was a bit dodgy but keeper saved, so no biggie in the end.

Just hope they at least have a crack against France and give Lewandowski some help up front.

As much as Australia and Polska have done well enough to make the last 16, realistically it will be the end of the road, but minimum was achieved at least (going past group stage).

It is possible for Poland v England quarter final?

Firstly, we would have to "dope" the French drinking water.

Just a thought, I'm thinking now we are up against France that the english would have been barracking for us two games in a row?

When the Poles were up on yellow cards it reminded me of England winning the cricket WC on a technical point against NZ.

Would that be the double world champions? The best white ball cricket team in the world.

[Just Dave now]

That 2nd half was so difficult to sit through.
Proud of the team to get through to the knockout stage but now it's Les Bleus to deal with

Absolutely outplayed but snuck in. Pen was a bit dodgy but keeper saved, so no biggie in the end.

Just hope they at least have a crack against France and give Lewandowski some help up front.

As much as Australia and Polska have done well enough to make the last 16, realistically it will be the end of the road, but minimum was achieved at least (going past group stage).

It is possible for Poland v England quarter final?

Firstly, we would have to "dope" the French drinking water.

Just a thought, I'm thinking now we are up against France that the english would have been barracking for us two games in a row?

When the Poles were up on yellow cards it reminded me of England winning the cricket WC on a technical point against NZ.

Would that be the double world champions? The best white ball cricket team in the world.

until a week or two ago when you got drilled

[MegaBonus]

Post by Arena Oaxaca » Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:50 am

MegaBonus wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:54 am
well, youve criticised the 'idealist' who have taken over the game thus was wondering whats your alternative......are these idealist (whoever they are) solely responsible for this mornings hammering?

Yes, I put them blame squarely on them. But keep aspiring to beat the man cities of the world with a one size fits all approach

Im assuming you will be giving credit to these New Soccer 'idealists' for the victory and passage to the knock-out stages??

[God is an Englishman]

Absolutely outplayed but snuck in. Pen was a bit dodgy but keeper saved, so no biggie in the end.

Just hope they at least have a crack against France and give Lewandowski some help up front.

As much as Australia and Polska have done well enough to make the last 16, realistically it will be the end of the road, but minimum was achieved at least (going past group stage).

It is possible for Poland v England quarter final?

Firstly, we would have to "dope" the French drinking water.

Just a thought, I'm thinking now we are up against France that the english would have been barracking for us two games in a row?

When the Poles were up on yellow cards it reminded me of England winning the cricket WC on a technical point against NZ.

Would that be the double world champions? The best white ball cricket team in the world.

until a week or two ago when you got drilled

World cup > friendlies.

Congratulation to australia for beating our reserves in a friendly.

[GaylyColouredStumps]

Post by Arena Oaxaca » Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:50 am

MegaBonus wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:54 am
well, youve criticised the 'idealist' who have taken over the game thus was wondering whats your alternative......are these idealist (whoever they are) solely responsible for this mornings hammering?

Yes, I put them blame squarely on them. But keep aspiring to beat the man cities of the world with a one size fits all approach

Im assuming you will be giving credit to these New Soccer 'idealists' for the victory and passage to the knock-out stages??

Go watch the game numnuts

You’ll notice Matt Ryan rarely played out short to his defenders, the cornerstone of the Aussie super curriculum. I’d give them credit if the team actually tried playing like 2011 Barcelona

Thankfully they didn’t

[MegaBonus]

now you have really confused me....winning 2 games in the group stage and make the last 16 is or isnt good enough???

[GaylyColouredStumps]

now you have really confused me....winning 2 games in the group stage and make the last 16 is or isnt good enough???

It is good enough, especially with this squad

[MegaBonus]

i think you are ignorant around the purpose of 'implementing a curriculum'......

[GaylyColouredStumps]

i think you are ignorant around the purpose of 'implementing a curriculum'......

Tell that to those pushing it and ridiculing those that questioned it.

[predrag]

Defense & counter payed off well ,Denmark out like my first ever boxing match ,i got the living daylights beaten out of me but in the end i won on knockout when my opponent thought he was to good for the ring.Argentina are football gods,but who knows miracles do happen+ i think Poland can eliminate France.

[MegaBonus]

@ Arena

I understand why you speak in riddles and the reason for being vague but is there any chance you can add to a conversation by not making so many generalisations...so:

• who are these idealist?

• who is pushing it?

• who is doing the ridiculing?

• who is questioning it?

[GaylyColouredStumps]

@ Arena

I understand why you speak in riddles and the reason for being vague but is there any chance you can add to a conversation by not making so many generalisations...so:

• who are these idealist?

• who is pushing it?

• who is doing the ridiculing?

• who is questioning it?

Christ you’re stupid

When ange was criticised for playing three at the back and insisting on playing out through the defenders he had a sook and said he thought we were trying to develop a national philosophy, we even had a curriculum outlining how we want to play as a country

You tell me what that means numnuts

[MegaBonus]

The curriculum focuses on a preferred development model......not how the national team 'has to' play......let me guess....you've never read it right?

and youve never read Ange's 'Changing the game'...right???

[zzz]

The curriculum focuses on a preferred development model......not how the national team 'has to' play......let me guess....you've never read it right?

and youve never read Ange's 'Changing the game'...right???

Remind me how that development model is going? How many Australian players are playing in good leagues?
Compare that to how many were playing in good leagues 20 years ago.

[GaylyColouredStumps]

The curriculum focuses on a preferred development model......not how the national team 'has to' play......let me guess....you've never read it right?

and youve never read Ange's 'Changing the game'...right???

lol so what was Ange on about with his dummy spit?

[MegaBonus]

Post by zzz » Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:46 pm

Remind me how that development model is going?

better than the Italian one I guess....

[MegaBonus]

Post by Arena Oaxaca » Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:59 pm

MegaBonus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:32 pm


The curriculum focuses on a preferred development model......not how the national team 'has to' play......let me guess....you've never read it right?

and youve never read Ange's 'Changing the game'...right???

lol so what was Ange on about with his dummy spit?

If i explain it to you, you'll have to admit you are wrong, which i doubt you would, thus I wont waste my time....

to be fair, we have some thoughts in common about the national team and development at youth level but i dont criticise something i dont understand...

[GaylyColouredStumps]

Post by Arena Oaxaca » Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:59 pm

MegaBonus wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:32 pm


The curriculum focuses on a preferred development model......not how the national team 'has to' play......let me guess....you've never read it right?

and youve never read Ange's 'Changing the game'...right???

lol so what was Ange on about with his dummy spit?

If i explain it to you, you'll have to admit you are wrong, which i doubt you would, thus I wont waste my time....

to be fair, we have some thoughts in common about the national team and development at youth level but i dont criticise something i dont understand...

Get stuffed

https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/si ... rcn7ld.pdf

How should Australians play football? What skills and style best suit our nation and our hundreds of thousands of players? These are fundamental questions that should engage the minds of everyone involved in the game from the professional tier to the grassroots.
The FFA National Football Curriculum not only provides answers, but explains the philosophy behind how we should play and illustrates practical steps that bring the thinking to life in training and matches.

Megaboner

Anyway, you happy with how we played to win? Must have made you squirm watching Ryan pump ball after ball upfield

[MegaBonus]

copying and pasting something from the internet and suggesting you understand it.....good try.....

[GaylyColouredStumps]

copying and pasting something from the internet and suggesting you understand it.....good try.....

[GaylyColouredStumps]

Still wanna claim the curriculum for this mornings success?

[MegaBonus]

see...this is where you show yourself up......i have never suggested that we won because of the 'curriculum'.....all i did was ask if you would merit the win because of the curriculum just like you blamed it for the loss to France......you cant have it both ways!

[GaylyColouredStumps]

see...this is where you show yourself up......i have never suggested that we won because of the 'curriculum'.....all i did was ask if you would merit the win because of the curriculum just like you blamed it for the loss to France......you cant have it both ways!

You show yourself up

Your curriculum has produced nothing, hence our squad has low tier players

The game plan has been the opposite of what the curriculum suggests, because of the level of talent we have, this pragmatic approach has worked by getting us 6 points

If we used the idealistic game plan the curriculum recommends, then we would have ended up with 0 points

You cannot argue any of this as they are the facts

Hope this helps with your confusion.

[MegaBonus]

youre confused!!!!!!!!!.....i havent argued what you are suggesting........if i have, point to it....but i ask you again...."will you merit the win because of the curriculum just like you blamed it for the loss to France (and the idealist)?"

it really is a simple question....

you cant blame 'New football, the A League and the curriculum' for the national teams failures and then not give it credit for when the national team achieves its best group result....

i can give you at least half a dozen reasons why we havent produced a Cahill, Viduka or Kewell in the last 10 years and its got nothing to do with the FFA curriculum.....quite simply, the curriculum outlines 'what to teach, how to teach it and at what age'. The integral elements are the same as the most successful nations but with an emphasis on exploiting our inherited strengths.

[Nice One Cyril]

A naturally gifted athlete, willing to put in the hard yards, will generally get to a decent standard at whatever sport they're playing even with minimal coaching, so how exactly do you quantify what the curriculum has or hasn't achieved? I agree that it might raise the standard of the average player, but whether it will produce more top level players than would naturally occur is debatable, it's equally possible that it could do the opposite and stifle the individual talent that we're so desperately trying to find.

Interestingly, analysis shows that fitness was not a decisive factor at the 2010 FIFA World Cup. The fittest teams were not the most successful, but rather the technically best teams containing the ‘special’ players had the greatest success!

The FFA Skill Acquisition training program focuses upon developing four core skills when in possession of the ball. 1. striking the ball This includes all forms of striking the ball such as short/long passing; shooting and crossing 2. First touch Controlling the ball with all allowed body parts 3. 1 v 1 All moves, feints and accelerations to get past and away from an opponent 4. running with the ball At speed (with a lot of space) or ‘dribbling’ (in tight areas), this includes techniques for protecting the ball and changing direction.

Duh, thank you Captain Obvious, but wouldn't those technical players be better if they were a yard quicker, could run longer, jump higher, etc? Why is Cristiano Ronaldo still able (just) to play at the top level at 37, why did Stanley Mathews play until he was 50?

Are those really the core skills that are required, or are they just basic stuff that produces basic players?

[GaylyColouredStumps]

youre confused!!!!!!!!!.....i havent argued what you are suggesting........if i have, point to it....but i ask you again...."will you merit the win because of the curriculum just like you blamed it for the loss to France (and the idealist)?"

it really is a simple question....

you cant blame 'New football, the A League and the curriculum' for the national teams failures and then not give it credit for when the national team achieves its best group result....

i can give you at least half a dozen reasons why we havent produced a Cahill, Viduka or Kewell in the last 10 years and its got nothing to do with the FFA curriculum.....quite simply, the curriculum outlines 'what to teach, how to teach it and at what age'. The integral elements are the same as the most successful nations but with an emphasis on exploiting our inherited strengths.

I disagree

[GaylyColouredStumps]

We have a national curriculum and our national team completely ignores how it says w we should play

Anyway, we should move on, you’re starting to rant and repeat the same question like that other form defective.

Back to the WC

[ozzie owl]

Belgium gone not helped by the sitter Lukaku missed .

[GaylyColouredStumps]

Belgium gone not helped by the sitter Lukaku missed .

Sitters

It was almost comical, he had money on Croatia going through