World Cup 2022 Forum

[Marinos]

They’ve got more time to work on their dance moves now

Did anyone seriously have an issue with their celebrations?

[theorakle]

So disappointed for Japan, what a shame they didn’t win last night

Croatia made my day.

ivanka knol made mine,

[GaylyColouredStumps]

They’ve got more time to work on their dance moves now

Did anyone seriously have an issue with their celebrations?

Any team with the pedigree of Brazil carrying on like pork chops after a demolition of a team like South Korea gets everything coming their way

[Marinos]

They’ve got more time to work on their dance moves now

Did anyone seriously have an issue with their celebrations?

Any team with the pedigree of Brazil carrying on like pork chops after a demolition of a team like South Korea gets everything coming their way

shiraz hell, they even gave you one of their rejects to play for your country and you still hammer them

[predrag]

Brazil should have got a red for a taekwondo style high kick in first half,Croatia matched them all over the field,a great step up from last game,still shots on goal must improve for Argentina.By the way Argentine players must have went to an acting academy ,carrying on like a bunch of idiots going down to i guess an aura touch as soon as a player gets close to them,then complain about ref?

[GaylyColouredStumps]

They’ve got more time to work on their dance moves now

Did anyone seriously have an issue with their celebrations?

Any team with the pedigree of Brazil carrying on like pork chops after a demolition of a team like South Korea gets everything coming their way

shiraz hell, they even gave you one of their rejects to play for your country and you still hammer them

Yep

[Frank Costanza]

The cameras cutting to Becks just before Kane ballooned that pen was a little too prophetic.
NOC - if he did that in the NL derby (and spurs went on to lose) how much worse would you feel than now?

[GaylyColouredStumps]

Let’s see who gets the blame:

Ref?
Kane?
Southgate?
Macron?

[GaylyColouredStumps]

When Kane heard “it’s coming home” he thought it meant the actual football they were playing with

[Maldini]

Let’s see who gets the blame:

Ref?
Kane?
Southgate?
Macron?

Blame should not be on Kane. The team should have scored at least once in open play to keep themselves in it rather than relying on penalties. Other players need to step up in big games like this too.

[ozzie owl]

Let’s see who gets the blame:

Ref?
Kane?
Southgate?
Macron?

Blame should not be on Kane. The team should have scored at least once in open play to keep themselves in it rather than relying on penalties. Other players need to step up in big games like this too.

Some poor substitutions and too late by Southgate .

Sterling did nothing and apart from the foul to get a penalty Mount was also missing .

What was point in bringing on Grealish with 2 mins of added time left ?

[eagleboy]

Let’s see who gets the blame:

Ref?
Kane?
Southgate?
Macron?

Blame should not be on Kane. The team should have scored at least once in open play to keep themselves in it rather than relying on penalties. Other players need to step up in big games like this too.

Some poor substitutions and too late by Southgate.

Sterling did nothing and apart from the foul to get a penalty Mount was also missing .

What was point in bringing on Grealish with 2 mins of added time left ?

Bit harsh to blame the loss on Sterling and Mount. They came on in the 79 minute and one got a penalty. Stelling had a couple of moments. Pickford kept the poms in the game. Giroud still has a bit in his tank.

[God is an Englishman]

Let’s see who gets the blame:

Ref?
Kane?
Southgate?
Macron?

Blame should not be on Kane. The team should have scored at least once in open play to keep themselves in it rather than relying on penalties. Other players need to step up in big games like this too.

Some poor substitutions and too late by Southgate .

Sterling did nothing and apart from the foul to get a penalty Mount was also missing .

What was point in bringing on Grealish with 2 mins of added time left ?

There was an injury.


I thought, apart from the 2 penalties he missed (one may have been only a free kick) and the foul on Saka before their first goal, the ref had a good game.

[thebeautifulgame]

Let’s see who gets the blame:

Ref?
Kane?
Southgate?
Macron?

Ref- started well enough but found it tough the second half. Surprised the second penalty given needed VAR intervention.
Kane- class player though second penalty was woeful but this is what pressure does when the weight of a nation is on your shoulders.
Southgate- better manager than what he gets credit for but some of the Poms will no doubt blast him. For me England were the better team second half and France struggled at times. This defeat was not caused by the manager or tactics on the park as they were narrowly beaten by the present World Champions.
Macron-

[eagleboy]

Great WC moments

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https://youtu.be/364qq5QOKsM

[MegaBonus]

God is an Englishman » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:23 am


I thought, apart from the 2 penalties he missed (one may have been only a free kick) and the foul on Saka before their first goal, the ref had a good game.

I think youve just given forumites ammunition for years to come...

[eagleboy]

God is an Englishman » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:23 am


I thought, apart from the 2 penalties he missed (one may have been only a free kick) and the foul on Saka before their first goal, the ref had a good game.

I think youve just given forumites ammunition for years to come...

It wouldn't be England without them whingeing

[predrag]

Moroccan's were amazing, England played great, just not enough shots on goal-why the hell did a player like Grealish come on so late?

[Nice One Cyril]

Let’s see who gets the blame:

Ref?
Kane?
Southgate?
Macron?

Interesting. I wouldn't blame the ref, I liked that he let a good amount of physical stuff go and that he missed an obvious foul on Saka is meaningless, there was plenty of time for England to defend that, Rice I think it was let Mbappe come inside, then although it was a great strike, Pickford should save those from that range, but it was a well worked goal.

Kane missed a penalty and it was a poor pen, but everyone misses from time to time and that was just the wrong time.

Macron I can discount even though he married his mother, so that just leaves me with Southgate. I accept that he has limited choices in defence so has to play Maguire and Shaw, neither of whom are really good enough, but why pick Henderson, he's an older version of Rice and Bellingham, and leave Maddison on the bench?

He's had six years, achieved nothing with the best squad I've seen since Bobby Robson was managing and surely has to go now. Remember, his crowning achievement in club football was getting Middlesborough relegated.

[GaylyColouredStumps]

Let’s see who gets the blame:

Ref?
Kane?
Southgate?
Macron?

Interesting. I wouldn't blame the ref, I liked that he let a good amount of physical stuff go and that he missed an obvious foul on Saka is meaningless, there was plenty of time for England to defend that, Rice I think it was let Mbappe come inside, then although it was a great strike, Pickford should save those from that range, but it was a well worked goal.

Kane missed a penalty and it was a poor pen, but everyone misses from time to time and that was just the wrong time.

Macron I can discount even though he married his mother, so that just leaves me with Southgate. I accept that he has limited choices in defence so has to play Maguire and Shaw, neither of whom are really good enough, but why pick Henderson, he's an older version of Rice and Bellingham, and leave Maddison on the bench?

He's had six years, achieved nothing with the best squad I've seen since Bobby Robson was managing and surely has to go now. Remember, his crowning achievement in club football was getting Middlesborough relegated.

Commiserations

The good news is, the decent players in your team are 25 and younger. Find a coach with some cojones and the best may be yet to come for you guys

[N5 1BH]

Let’s be honest this was always coming despite all this nonsense about Southgate improving the players. The young players are improving at their clubs but they look isolated and often lost in his very basic set up because Southgate has not improved his technical ability or bravery. They have gone beyond him, he is still clueless and was always going to get found out, Henderson wasn’t the answer 10 years ago why would he be the answer now and don’t get me started on his subs jesusfuckingchrist give me strength, Sterling and Rashford? Who was going to give them the ball, McGuire ?

[thebeautifulgame]

Let’s be honest this was always coming despite all this nonsense about Southgate improving the players. The young players are improving at their clubs but they look isolated and often lost in his very basic set up because Southgate has not improved his technical ability or bravery. They have gone beyond him, he is still clueless and was always going to get found out, Henderson wasn’t the answer 10 years ago why would he be the answer now and don’t get me started on his subs jesusfuckingchrist give me strength, Sterling and Rashford? Who was going to give them the ball, McGuire ?

FFS- He took you guys to the Euro Finals and lost because the players bottled the penalties, not him. He took you this far in the WC and you went out because big Harry missed a pen- not him.
Hope he walks, some of you Engerland fans don't deserve him. Southgate is far from clueless.

[Nice One Cyril]

Let’s be honest this was always coming despite all this nonsense about Southgate improving the players. The young players are improving at their clubs but they look isolated and often lost in his very basic set up because Southgate has not improved his technical ability or bravery. They have gone beyond him, he is still clueless and was always going to get found out, Henderson wasn’t the answer 10 years ago why would he be the answer now and don’t get me started on his subs jesusfuckingchrist give me strength, Sterling and Rashford? Who was going to give them the ball, McGuire ?

FFS- He took you guys to the Euro Finals and lost because the players bottled the penalties, not him. He took you this far in the WC and you went out because big Harry missed a pen- not him.
Hope he walks, some of you Engerland fans don't deserve him. Southgate is far from clueless.

If he's so good you're welcome to have him in Scotland.

He was cabernet at club level, he's boring, tactically inept, scared of losing and, with the standard of players at his disposal, Sam Allardyce would have done just as well. He need to take a shiraz off pill right now and give us a chance in the next tournament.

[God is an Englishman]

God is an Englishman » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:23 am


I thought, apart from the 2 penalties he missed (one may have been only a free kick) and the foul on Saka before their first goal, the ref had a good game.

I think youve just given forumites ammunition for years to come...

It wouldn't be England without them whingeing

Who's whingeing? I even said I thought thre ref had a good game.

[eagleboy]

God is an Englishman » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:23 am


I thought, apart from the 2 penalties he missed (one may have been only a free kick) and the foul on Saka before their first goal, the ref had a good game.

I think youve just given forumites ammunition for years to come...

It wouldn't be England without them whingeing

Who's whingeing? I even said I thought thre ref had a good game.

Mark Clattenburg has given his verdict on the two big refereeing decisions in England vs France

Clattenburg has now had his say in a column for the Daily Mail.
And, rather surprisingly, he believes that both calls were in fact correct.


https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/fifa-wo ... 37d6bb1c0b

[N5 1BH]

Let’s be honest this was always coming despite all this nonsense about Southgate improving the players. The young players are improving at their clubs but they look isolated and often lost in his very basic set up because Southgate has not improved his technical ability or bravery. They have gone beyond him, he is still clueless and was always going to get found out, Henderson wasn’t the answer 10 years ago why would he be the answer now and don’t get me started on his subs jesusfuckingchrist give me strength, Sterling and Rashford? Who was going to give them the ball, McGuire ?

FFS- He took you guys to the Euro Finals and lost because the players bottled the penalties, not him. He took you this far in the WC and you went out because big Harry missed a pen- not him.
Hope he walks, some of you Engerland fans don't deserve him. Southgate is far from clueless.

Subbing on two kids at the last minute to take penalties isn’t clever by the way. If we lost coz Kane missed a penalty that means we were reliant on two daft defensive mistakes to be even in the game so if our tactics were so good can you tell us why, despite lots of possession we were unable to put Lloris and a pretty vulnerable frog defence under any real pressure. Giroud is 36 and he got played in better than any of our lot

[MegaBonus]

Kane’s penalty has just arrived at Heathrow.........a full 24 hours before the plane carrying the players.

[Marinos]

Let’s be honest this was always coming despite all this nonsense about Southgate improving the players. The young players are improving at their clubs but they look isolated and often lost in his very basic set up because Southgate has not improved his technical ability or bravery. They have gone beyond him, he is still clueless and was always going to get found out, Henderson wasn’t the answer 10 years ago why would he be the answer now and don’t get me started on his subs jesusfuckingchrist give me strength, Sterling and Rashford? Who was going to give them the ball, McGuire ?

FFS- He took you guys to the Euro Finals and lost because the players bottled the penalties, not him. He took you this far in the WC and you went out because big Harry missed a pen- not him.
Hope he walks, some of you Engerland fans don't deserve him. Southgate is far from clueless.

Subbing on two kids at the last minute to take penalties isn’t clever by the way. If we lost coz Kane missed a penalty that means we were reliant on two daft defensive mistakes to be even in the game so if our tactics were so good can you tell us why, despite lots of possession we were unable to put Lloris and a pretty vulnerable frog defence under any real pressure. Giroud is 36 and he got played in better than any of our lot

Game was lost before kickoff when your entire nation focused on how your 32 year old right back who plays as a CB for his club was going to stop the most electric player in the modern game. I did not see a single French media report on stopping Kane who plays with his back to goal and focuses on set pieces.

Not sure how vulnerable the French defence were when - fairly - they've not managed a clean sheet all tournament but managed to keep England to a non-penalty xG of 0.61.

[ozzie owl]

Let’s be honest this was always coming despite all this nonsense about Southgate improving the players. The young players are improving at their clubs but they look isolated and often lost in his very basic set up because Southgate has not improved his technical ability or bravery. They have gone beyond him, he is still clueless and was always going to get found out, Henderson wasn’t the answer 10 years ago why would he be the answer now and don’t get me started on his subs jesusfuckingchrist give me strength, Sterling and Rashford? Who was going to give them the ball, McGuire ?

FFS- He took you guys to the Euro Finals and lost because the players bottled the penalties, not him. He took you this far in the WC and you went out because big Harry missed a pen- not him.
Hope he walks, some of you Engerland fans don't deserve him. Southgate is far from clueless.

Subbing on two kids at the last minute to take penalties isn’t clever by the way. If we lost coz Kane missed a penalty that means we were reliant on two daft defensive mistakes to be even in the game so if our tactics were so good can you tell us why, despite lots of possession we were unable to put Lloris and a pretty vulnerable frog defence under any real pressure. Giroud is 36 and he got played in better than any of our lot

Game was lost before kickoff when your entire nation focused on how your 32 year old right back who plays as a CB for his club was going to stop the most electric player in the modern game. I did not see a single French media report on stopping Kane who plays with his back to goal and focuses on set pieces.

Not sure how vulnerable the French defence were when - fairly - they've not managed a clean sheet all tournament but managed to keep England to a non-penalty xG of 0.61.

Walker rarely plays CB at Man City.

[N5 1BH]

Let’s be honest this was always coming despite all this nonsense about Southgate improving the players. The young players are improving at their clubs but they look isolated and often lost in his very basic set up because Southgate has not improved his technical ability or bravery. They have gone beyond him, he is still clueless and was always going to get found out, Henderson wasn’t the answer 10 years ago why would he be the answer now and don’t get me started on his subs jesusfuckingchrist give me strength, Sterling and Rashford? Who was going to give them the ball, McGuire ?

FFS- He took you guys to the Euro Finals and lost because the players bottled the penalties, not him. He took you this far in the WC and you went out because big Harry missed a pen- not him.
Hope he walks, some of you Engerland fans don't deserve him. Southgate is far from clueless.

Subbing on two kids at the last minute to take penalties isn’t clever by the way. If we lost coz Kane missed a penalty that means we were reliant on two daft defensive mistakes to be even in the game so if our tactics were so good can you tell us why, despite lots of possession we were unable to put Lloris and a pretty vulnerable frog defence under any real pressure. Giroud is 36 and he got played in better than any of our lot

Game was lost before kickoff when your entire nation focused on how your 32 year old right back who plays as a CB for his club was going to stop the most electric player in the modern game. I did not see a single French media report on stopping Kane who plays with his back to goal and focuses on set pieces.

Not sure how vulnerable the French defence were when - fairly - they've not managed a clean sheet all tournament but managed to keep England to a non-penalty xG of 0.61.

Ah so you read French good for you, nice to be bilingual. Your kind of making my point to be honest, Southgate is tactically scared and inept. Was obvious from previous games and this one that the French defence were there to be got at but he didn’t set us up to do that. Not the players fault, his fault