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Re: Ashes 2023

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MegaBonus wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:17 am Hahahaha.....you sad whinger.

When does the applying of rules stop and when does the spirit of the game kick in?

Phenomenal innings by Stokes enabled by poor bowling and strange field placings.
Why bother you know you will never win with GIAE

2-0 has a nice ring to it doesn't it, Bairstow lost all concentration because I think he could smell the pies that were being warmed in the oven.

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Re: Ashes 2023

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In summary, Poms should be allowed to roam in and out of their crease, at their discretion, without consequence.

All other countries must remain in their crease, else face the prospect of dismissal as per the laws of the game
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Re: Ashes 2023

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God is an Englishman wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:48 am
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Thank you for posting that. Hopefully that will keep Bomber quiet for a while.
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Re: Ashes 2023

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God is an Englishman wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:10 pm
Frank Costanza wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:58 pm This is getting tense.
Some atrocious bowling to Stokes just gifting him a ton.
The Bairstow wicket - just dumb to be walking out of his crease like that and smart from Carey to have a shot at the stumps.
Big hour after lunch as the high emotions play right into England's hands
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Spirit of the game?

If you're happy with getting a wicket like that then it says a lot about you.
Thankfully I don't care what you think of me.
The 'spirit of the game' is the standard typical argument from the losing team when something like this happens.
Given McCullum's discretions in the past with his on-field behaviour - his comments about the 'spirit' are hypocritical and pathetic.
The game is not damaged - all that happens is the 'spirit' gets mentioned for a few weeks and then it all goes back to normal
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Same old pommies, always whingeing. Even Strauss, Morgan could see it was stupid by Bairstow. If Carey was standing up to the stumps, no-one would complain, so he stood back and did same. End of the day IF over was called, then fair enough, not out. It wasnt, the ball was hurled back in the one motion and LOTG says OUT, stumped! So suck it up.
As for Broad playing high moral ground. :lol: :lol: :lol:
PS - I thought Stokes should have been MOTM - why does a player on the winning side always seem to get this award?
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GIAE whinge was always expected. Its an English inbred trait. They can't help it.
Look at the replay. The ball was hitting the stumps as Bairstow was walking out of his stumps. You can't say something is unfair because your batsman is dumb. Brilliant stumping. :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Disgusting MCC members as well. Manhandling opposition players. Poor sportsmanship on and off the field by the poms. ;-)

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eagleboy wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:06 am GIAE whinge was always expected. Its an English inbred trait. They can't help it.
Look at the replay. The ball was hitting the stumps as Bairstow was walking out of his stumps. You can't say something is unfair because your batsman is dumb. Brilliant stumping. :clap: :clap: :clap:

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It should be used as a teaching moment and reminder to all that I'd you play stupid games you will be out. Mccullum should be ripping Bairstow a new one for being such an idiot.

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Can’t have it both ways chaps! Damning footage exposes Poms’ great Ashes hypocrisy
Bairstow himself might not have a leg to stand on.

On day three of the Lord’s Test, Bairstow attempted to stump Marnus Labuschagne in the exact same fashion in which he was dismissed two days later.
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Whilst 2-0 is very handy, I still get the feeling that if any england team could rebound and come back from the dead and get up 3-2, it is this team. At least next test we should have a fully fit spinner.
And now that england cant afford a draw, will they still ask for flat pitches?
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Bomber wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:17 am Whilst 2-0 is very handy, I still get the feeling that if any england team could rebound and come back from the dead and get up 3-2, it is this team. At least next test we should have a fully fit spinner.
And now that england cant afford a draw, will they still ask for flat pitches?
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Michael wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:22 am
Bomber wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:17 am Whilst 2-0 is very handy, I still get the feeling that if any england team could rebound and come back from the dead and get up 3-2, it is this team. At least next test we should have a fully fit spinner.
And now that england cant afford a draw, will they still ask for flat pitches?
"I wish I can get the 4 hours I spent on saturday night back, it was the most boring bowling display I have ever seen in ashes cricket."
Watching the Bombers blow the game after siren to Port was deflating enough for me. Oh well, I move on, it's only sport.
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Michael wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:22 am
Bomber wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:17 am Whilst 2-0 is very handy, I still get the feeling that if any england team could rebound and come back from the dead and get up 3-2, it is this team. At least next test we should have a fully fit spinner.
And now that england cant afford a draw, will they still ask for flat pitches?
"I wish I can get the 4 hours I spent on saturday night back, it was the most boring bowling display I have ever seen in ashes cricket."
Didn't you watch on Friday night when the aussies were doing it?
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Michael wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:12 am https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/th ... 21e5521b33
Can’t have it both ways chaps! Damning footage exposes Poms’ great Ashes hypocrisy
Bairstow himself might not have a leg to stand on.

On day three of the Lord’s Test, Bairstow attempted to stump Marnus Labuschagne in the exact same fashion in which he was dismissed two days later.
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Laubasagne was batting out of his crease and part of the shot had him out of the crease.

He didn't move back, scratch his guard and then move out.

Completely different, nice try though.
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eagleboy wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:08 am Disgusting MCC members as well. Manhandling opposition players. Poor sportsmanship on and off the field by the poms. ;-)

If it's true then that's wrong. None of the footage I have seen has that though.

Well done to the MCC members, gave them everything they deserved and nothing like the abuse opposition players get in australia.
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GIAE - just worry about your own backyard and spirit of cricket

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Would Cup win - after the ball accidentally deflected off his Ben Stoke's bat and went to the boundary for overthrow.

The only headline I see is Australia 2 - England & Wales 0

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can we know add 'hypocritical cry babies' to whinging...

In the spirit of the games :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
  • Stuart Broad - doesnt walk even though he knicked it to first slip
  • Bairstow - doing the same thing on Day 3 of Lords Test
  • England Cricket Team -
    England ranout Colin De Grandhomme who was out of his crease. While not a like-for-like scenario given De Grandhomme went to take off for a single, the Kiwi was caught napping because of the LBW appeal and England was happy to not withdraw its appeal.
  • McCullum -
    In 2006, McCullum ran out Muttiah Muralitharan who had stepped out of his crease to celebrate a century for Kumar Sangakkara.
  • Foakes -
    Commentator Isabelle Westbury said Carey’s stumping was fair game, however, pointing to how Ben Foakes’ controversial stumping of Andrew Balbirnie in 2019 didn’t draw the same amount of criticism in England.
we could go on, but you get the point....
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Just remember who started it all. It was all tea n scones until Douglas Jardine turned up.

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Re: Ashes 2023

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God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:37 am
Michael wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:12 am https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/th ... 21e5521b33
Can’t have it both ways chaps! Damning footage exposes Poms’ great Ashes hypocrisy
Bairstow himself might not have a leg to stand on.

On day three of the Lord’s Test, Bairstow attempted to stump Marnus Labuschagne in the exact same fashion in which he was dismissed two days later.
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Laubasagne was batting out of his crease and part of the shot had him out of the crease.

He didn't move back, scratch his guard and then move out.

Completely different, nice try though.

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God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:39 am
eagleboy wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:08 am Disgusting MCC members as well. Manhandling opposition players. Poor sportsmanship on and off the field by the poms. ;-)

If it's true then that's wrong. None of the footage I have seen has that though.

Well done to the MCC members, gave them everything they deserved and nothing like the abuse opposition players get in australia.
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For me:
Sandpaper = cheating
Underarm = not in spirit of game (but within laws at the time)
Bairstow stumping = Over not called, Carey's throw was in the one motion, like any other valid stumping = OUT (and suck it up)
Broad = possibly the game's biggest hypocrite

The longer the poms take to move on from this, the more it will be their problem.
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God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:32 am
Black Panther wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:27 am Someone asked this before but at what point does a stumping become a run out?

I thought it was a run out when the batsmen is attempting a run but in this case it went as a run out so there goes that theory.
When the batter hits it down the ground, skims the bowler and hits the stumps at the other end it's a run out even if the batsman at the non striker's end hasn't attempted a run.
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Bomber wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:07 am For me:
Sandpaper = cheating
Underarm = not in spirit of game (but within laws at the time)
Bairstow stumping = Over not called, Carey's throw was in the one motion, like any other valid stumping = OUT (and suck it up)
Broad = possibly the game's biggest hypocrite

The longer the poms take to move on from this, the more it will be their problem.
I was hoping Stokes could get the win for the Poms, would make it an interesting Ashes.
The Ozzies bowling to him after the correct run-out to ginger meggs, was on par to the Pom's on saturday night.
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my god storm in a teacup , after starc's catch and everyone laughing after the not out it came back to bite the poms when a decision didnt go their way , karma and sore losers
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Re: Ashes 2023

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Black Panther wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:07 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:32 am
Black Panther wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:27 am Someone asked this before but at what point does a stumping become a run out?



I thought it was a run out when the batsmen is attempting a run but in this case it went as a run out so there goes that theory.
When the batter hits it down the ground, skims the bowler and hits the stumps at the other end it's a run out even if the batsman at the non striker's end hasn't attempted a run.
Then why was he out of his crease?
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Just Dave now wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:25 am my god storm in a teacup , after starc's catch and everyone laughing after the not out it came back to bite the poms when a decision didnt go their way , karma and sore losers
Starc didn't catch it though. They're not equivalent.
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MegaBonus wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:52 am can we know add 'hypocritical cry babies' to whinging...

In the spirit of the games :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
  • Stuart Broad - doesnt walk even though he knicked it to first slip
  • Bairstow - doing the same thing on Day 3 of Lords Test
  • England Cricket Team -
    England ranout Colin De Grandhomme who was out of his crease. While not a like-for-like scenario given De Grandhomme went to take off for a single, the Kiwi was caught napping because of the LBW appeal and England was happy to not withdraw its appeal.
  • McCullum -
    In 2006, McCullum ran out Muttiah Muralitharan who had stepped out of his crease to celebrate a century for Kumar Sangakkara.
  • Foakes -
    Commentator Isabelle Westbury said Carey’s stumping was fair game, however, pointing to how Ben Foakes’ controversial stumping of Andrew Balbirnie in 2019 didn’t draw the same amount of criticism in England.
we could go on, but you get the point....

Broad didn't walk. Neither do aussies.

Bairstow attempted a stumping when laubasagne was out of his crease playing a shot.

De Grandhomme - see above with Laubasagne.

I didn't realise McCullum played for England.

I will try and look up the Foakes one.



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God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:01 pm
MegaBonus wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:52 am can we know add 'hypocritical cry babies' to whinging...

In the spirit of the games :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
  • Stuart Broad - doesnt walk even though he knicked it to first slip
  • Bairstow - doing the same thing on Day 3 of Lords Test
  • England Cricket Team -
    England ranout Colin De Grandhomme who was out of his crease. While not a like-for-like scenario given De Grandhomme went to take off for a single, the Kiwi was caught napping because of the LBW appeal and England was happy to not withdraw its appeal.
  • McCullum -
    In 2006, McCullum ran out Muttiah Muralitharan who had stepped out of his crease to celebrate a century for Kumar Sangakkara.
  • Foakes -
    Commentator Isabelle Westbury said Carey’s stumping was fair game, however, pointing to how Ben Foakes’ controversial stumping of Andrew Balbirnie in 2019 didn’t draw the same amount of criticism in England.
we could go on, but you get the point....

Broad didn't walk. Neither do aussies.

Bairstow attempted a stumping when laubasagne was out of his crease playing a shot.

De Grandhomme - see above with Laubasagne.

I didn't realise McCullum played for England.

I will try and look up the Foakes one.



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the only desperate one around here is giae , still sobbing
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These justifications are hilarious.
In the end the result is what matters. Hopefully we can keep it up and retain the ashes

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