England Squad

The forum is for discussion of club football outside Australia and national team football Please do not post any offensive or malicious comments.

Moderators: BillShankly, arxidi, ruud, Judge Judy, Forum Admins

Post Reply
ozzie owl
Coach
Coach
Posts: 22012
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
Has thanked: 230 times
Been thanked: 67 times

England Squad

Post by ozzie owl »

First Squad under Caretaker Manager Carsley

Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson (Crystal Palace), Jordan Pickford (Everton), Nick Pope (Newcastle United)

Defenders: Marc Guehi (Crystal Palace), Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa), John Stones (Manchester City), Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Levi Colwill (Chelsea), Rico Lewis (Manchester City), Tino Livramento (Newcastle), Harry Maguire (Manchester United)

Midfielders: Conor Gallagher (Atletico Madrid), Kobbie Mainoo (Manchester United), Declan Rice (Arsenal), Cole Palmer (Chelsea), Morgan Gibbs-White (Nottingham Forest), Angel Gomes (Lille), Phil Foden (Manchester City)

Forwards: Jarrod Bowen (West Ham), Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace), Jack Grealish (Manchester City), Anthony Gordon (Newcastle United), Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), Noni Madueke (Chelsea) Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa).

Nice One Cyril
Assistant Coach
Assistant Coach
Posts: 19822
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:55 am
Been thanked: 135 times

Re: England Squad

Post by Nice One Cyril »

ozzie owl wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:24 am First Squad under Caretaker Manager Carsley

Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson (Crystal Palace), Jordan Pickford (Everton), Nick Pope (Newcastle United)

Defenders: Marc Guehi (Crystal Palace), Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa), John Stones (Manchester City), Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Levi Colwill (Chelsea), Rico Lewis (Manchester City), Tino Livramento (Newcastle), Harry Maguire (Manchester United)

Midfielders: Conor Gallagher (Atletico Madrid), Kobbie Mainoo (Manchester United), Declan Rice (Arsenal), Cole Palmer (Chelsea), Morgan Gibbs-White (Nottingham Forest), Angel Gomes (Lille), Phil Foden (Manchester City)

Forwards: Jarrod Bowen (West Ham), Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace), Jack Grealish (Manchester City), Anthony Gordon (Newcastle United), Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), Noni Madueke (Chelsea) Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa).
Anybody who picks Maguire over Braithwaite, or Gallagher over Wharton, doesn't really inspire me. Southgate the Second until proven otherwise. The only good thing is that Bellingham is missing, so we might get to see some midfield passing instead of running for the sake of it.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower

User avatar
haywood djablowme
Star Player
Star Player
Posts: 3424
Joined: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:42 pm
Has thanked: 35 times
Been thanked: 28 times

Re: England Squad

Post by haywood djablowme »

Any squad with no Spurs is a good squad

But Maguire over Ben White 🤣
SAASL SUNDAY PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPION 2010 2011
SAASL CHALLENGE CUP WINNER 2008 2010 2011
SAASL CHAMPION OF CHAMPIONS WINNER 2010
SAASL CICHANOWSKI SHIELD WINNER 2009 2011 2012

Nice One Cyril
Assistant Coach
Assistant Coach
Posts: 19822
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:55 am
Been thanked: 135 times

Re: England Squad

Post by Nice One Cyril »

haywood djablowme wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:08 pm Any squad with no Spurs is a good squad

But Maguire over Ben White 🤣
White has still ruled himself out hasn't he?
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower

ozzie owl
Coach
Coach
Posts: 22012
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
Has thanked: 230 times
Been thanked: 67 times

Re: England Squad

Post by ozzie owl »

Comfortable 2-0 win over Ireland , despite yet another poor game by Harry Kaine .

He continued to drop too deep like he did under Southgate .

Rice my MOM

Nice One Cyril
Assistant Coach
Assistant Coach
Posts: 19822
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:55 am
Been thanked: 135 times

Re: England Squad

Post by Nice One Cyril »

ozzie owl wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:55 pm Comfortable 2-0 win over Ireland , despite yet another poor game by Harry Kaine .

He continued to drop too deep like he did under Southgate .

Rice my MOM
No service at all to Kane, but Rice looks a much better player without Bellingham.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower

Con M
Star Player
Star Player
Posts: 3298
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:19 pm
Has thanked: 14 times
Been thanked: 66 times

Re: England Squad

Post by Con M »

haywood djablowme wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:08 pm Any squad with no Spurs is a good squad

But Maguire over Ben White 🤣
Maguire is rubbish. And Grealish is just a poor man’s version of Saka, so predictable coming inside off the left. And untidy with socks at half-mast with kid-size shinpads. Dunno what master Manager Pep sees in him.

ps, what’s this about Carsley not singing “God Save The King”? Hasn’t he seen how other Managers and players belt out their anthem with real gusto?

pps Cyril, you would have noted the Arsenal skipper is injured and in doubt for the derby at 10.30pm Adelaide time this Sunday night?

ozzie owl
Coach
Coach
Posts: 22012
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
Has thanked: 230 times
Been thanked: 67 times

Re: England Squad

Post by ozzie owl »

Con M wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 12:42 pm
haywood djablowme wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:08 pm Any squad with no Spurs is a good squad

But Maguire over Ben White 🤣
Maguire is rubbish. And Grealish is just a poor man’s version of Saka, so predictable coming inside off the left. And untidy with socks at half-mast with kid-size shinpads. Dunno what master Manager Pep sees in him.

ps, what’s this about Carsley not singing “God Save The King”? Hasn’t he seen how other Managers and players belt out their anthem with real gusto?

pps Cyril, you would have noted the Arsenal skipper is injured and in doubt for the derby at 10.30pm Adelaide time this Sunday night?
Grealish played as a number 10 v Ireland with Gordon wide on the left.

Con M
Star Player
Star Player
Posts: 3298
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:19 pm
Has thanked: 14 times
Been thanked: 66 times

Re: England Squad

Post by Con M »

ozzie owl wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 1:58 pm
Con M wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 12:42 pm
haywood djablowme wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:08 pm Any squad with no Spurs is a good squad

But Maguire over Ben White 🤣
Maguire is rubbish. And Grealish is just a poor man’s version of Saka, so predictable coming inside off the left. And untidy with socks at half-mast with kid-size shinpads. Dunno what master Manager Pep sees in him.

ps, what’s this about Carsley not singing “God Save The King”? Hasn’t he seen how other Managers and players belt out their anthem with real gusto?

pps Cyril, you would have noted the Arsenal skipper is injured and in doubt for the derby at 10.30pm Adelaide time this Sunday night?
Grealish played as a number 10 v Ireland with Gordon wide on the left.
Sorry Owl, you’re right about the recent game where Grealish played.

I was thinking of where the departed Manager (Gareth something
...what’s his name?) usually played him - on the left, just as master Manager Pep usually plays him.

ozzie owl
Coach
Coach
Posts: 22012
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
Has thanked: 230 times
Been thanked: 67 times

Re: England Squad

Post by ozzie owl »

Con M wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:23 pm
ozzie owl wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 1:58 pm
Con M wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 12:42 pm
haywood djablowme wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:08 pm Any squad with no Spurs is a good squad

But Maguire over Ben White 🤣
Maguire is rubbish. And Grealish is just a poor man’s version of Saka, so predictable coming inside off the left. And untidy with socks at half-mast with kid-size shinpads. Dunno what master Manager Pep sees in him.

ps, what’s this about Carsley not singing “God Save The King”? Hasn’t he seen how other Managers and players belt out their anthem with real gusto?

pps Cyril, you would have noted the Arsenal skipper is injured and in doubt for the derby at 10.30pm Adelaide time this Sunday night?
Grealish played as a number 10 v Ireland with Gordon wide on the left.
Sorry Owl, you’re right about the recent game where Grealish played.

I was thinking of where the departed Manager (Gareth something
...what’s his name?) usually played him - on the left, just as master Manager Pep usually plays him.
Surely time for England to play Palmer as the number 10.

England has plenty of choices for midfield and attack however in defense options are limited due to injuries and lack of game time for some players.

Nice One Cyril
Assistant Coach
Assistant Coach
Posts: 19822
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:55 am
Been thanked: 135 times

Re: England Squad

Post by Nice One Cyril »

ozzie owl wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:30 pmSurely time for England to play Palmer as the number 10.

England has plenty of choices for midfield and attack however in defense options are limited due to injuries and lack of game time for some players.
Personally, much as I rate Kane, he's not going to be around for much longer at International level, so why not start now and put Foden and Palmer in tandem up front with Saka right and Gordon or Eze on the left?

Personally, I'd pick Wharton in the middle over some of the others, but I suspect we'll end up with Bellingham.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower

ozzie owl
Coach
Coach
Posts: 22012
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
Has thanked: 230 times
Been thanked: 67 times

Re: England Squad

Post by ozzie owl »

Latest England Squad

Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson (Crystal Palace), Jordan Pickford (Everton), Nick Pope (Newcastle United)

Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Levi Colwill (Chelsea), Marc Guéhi (Crystal Palace), Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa), Rico Lewis (Manchester City), John Stones (Manchester City), Kyle Walker (Manchester City)

Midfielders: Jude Bellingham (Real Madrid), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Conor Gallagher (Atletico Madrid), Morgan Gibbs-White (Nottingham Forest), Angel Gomes (Lille), Kobbie Mainoo (Manchester United), Cole Palmer (Chelsea), Declan Rice (Arsenal)

Forwards: Anthony Gordon (Newcastle United), Jack Grealish (Manchester City), Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), Noni Madueke (Chelsea), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Dominic Solanke (Tottenham Hotspur), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa)

ozzie owl
Coach
Coach
Posts: 22012
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
Has thanked: 230 times
Been thanked: 67 times

Re: England Squad

Post by ozzie owl »

England 1 Greece 2

One word sums England this morning shambles.

With what looked like 4-1-5-0 this morning England were terrible it looked like a contest to see how any attacking players England to wedge into one side. I had no idea where Palmer was playing, Foden and Bellingham don't work together.

As for the defence as make shift left back ( Lewis) and Stones showed why he is bench player.

Why didn't Watkins start?

Only positive was the cracking goal by Bellingham ( didn't do much else).

Con M
Star Player
Star Player
Posts: 3298
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:19 pm
Has thanked: 14 times
Been thanked: 66 times

Re: England Squad

Post by Con M »

ozzie owl wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:52 am England 1 Greece 2

One word sums England this morning shambles.

With what looked like 4-1-5-0 this morning England were terrible it looked like a contest to see how any attacking players England to wedge into one side. I had no idea where Palmer was playing, Foden and Bellingham don't work together.

As for the defence as make shift left back ( Lewis) and Stones showed why he is bench player.

Why didn't Watkins start?

Only positive was the cracking goal by Bellingham ( didn't do much else).
And not sure, did Bellingham’s goal take a deflection on the way to the goalkeeper’s glove.

First win by Greece 🇬🇷 at Wembley. Good tribute to the late George Baldock.

ps, I missed the start - did the England manager (what’s his name?) sing God Save The King?

Nice One Cyril
Assistant Coach
Assistant Coach
Posts: 19822
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:55 am
Been thanked: 135 times

Re: England Squad

Post by Nice One Cyril »

ozzie owl wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:52 am England 1 Greece 2

One word sums England this morning shambles.

With what looked like 4-1-5-0 this morning England were terrible it looked like a contest to see how any attacking players England to wedge into one side. I had no idea where Palmer was playing, Foden and Bellingham don't work together.

As for the defence as make shift left back ( Lewis) and Stones showed why he is bench player.

Why didn't Watkins start?

Only positive was the cracking goal by Bellingham ( didn't do much else).
:lol: Southgate took all that time and still failed to work out which players were round pegs and Carsley has learned nothing from him.

In the words of the immortal Mike Bassett, "England will be playing four, four, fucking two."
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower

Nice One Cyril
Assistant Coach
Assistant Coach
Posts: 19822
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:55 am
Been thanked: 135 times

Re: England Squad

Post by Nice One Cyril »

Con M wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:22 pm
ozzie owl wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:52 am England 1 Greece 2

One word sums England this morning shambles.

With what looked like 4-1-5-0 this morning England were terrible it looked like a contest to see how any attacking players England to wedge into one side. I had no idea where Palmer was playing, Foden and Bellingham don't work together.

As for the defence as make shift left back ( Lewis) and Stones showed why he is bench player.

Why didn't Watkins start?

Only positive was the cracking goal by Bellingham ( didn't do much else).
And not sure, did Bellingham’s goal take a deflection on the way to the goalkeeper’s glove.

First win by Greece 🇬🇷 at Wembley. Good tribute to the late George Baldock.

ps, I missed the start - did the England manager (what’s his name?) sing God Save The King?
Bellingham thinks the whole game is about him, plays like his Dad has promised him sixpence if he scores.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower

ozzie owl
Coach
Coach
Posts: 22012
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
Has thanked: 230 times
Been thanked: 67 times

Re: England Squad

Post by ozzie owl »

Nice One Cyril wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:36 pm
Con M wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:22 pm
ozzie owl wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:52 am England 1 Greece 2

One word sums England this morning shambles.

With what looked like 4-1-5-0 this morning England were terrible it looked like a contest to see how any attacking players England to wedge into one side. I had no idea where Palmer was playing, Foden and Bellingham don't work together.

As for the defence as make shift left back ( Lewis) and Stones showed why he is bench player.

Why didn't Watkins start?

Only positive was the cracking goal by Bellingham ( didn't do much else).
And not sure, did Bellingham’s goal take a deflection on the way to the goalkeeper’s glove.

First win by Greece 🇬🇷 at Wembley. Good tribute to the late George Baldock.

ps, I missed the start - did the England manager (what’s his name?) sing God Save The King?
Bellingham thinks the whole game is about him, plays like his Dad has promised him sixpence if he scores.
Another drab performance which matched the shirt colour.

Only highlights were the TAA free kick goal and the debt pass from Angel to set up Grealish. Other than falling over constantly it was (yet) another invisible game by Bellingham in the number 10 role.

Nice One Cyril
Assistant Coach
Assistant Coach
Posts: 19822
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:55 am
Been thanked: 135 times

Re: England Squad

Post by Nice One Cyril »

ozzie owl wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:43 am
Nice One Cyril wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:36 pm
Con M wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:22 pm
ozzie owl wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:52 am England 1 Greece 2

One word sums England this morning shambles.

With what looked like 4-1-5-0 this morning England were terrible it looked like a contest to see how any attacking players England to wedge into one side. I had no idea where Palmer was playing, Foden and Bellingham don't work together.

As for the defence as make shift left back ( Lewis) and Stones showed why he is bench player.

Why didn't Watkins start?

Only positive was the cracking goal by Bellingham ( didn't do much else).
And not sure, did Bellingham’s goal take a deflection on the way to the goalkeeper’s glove.

First win by Greece 🇬🇷 at Wembley. Good tribute to the late George Baldock.

ps, I missed the start - did the England manager (what’s his name?) sing God Save The King?
Bellingham thinks the whole game is about him, plays like his Dad has promised him sixpence if he scores.
Another drab performance which matched the shirt colour.

Only highlights were the TAA free kick goal and the debt pass from Angel to set up Grealish. Other than falling over constantly it was (yet) another invisible game by Bellingham in the number 10 role.
IMO the 10 position requires vision and spatial awareness above all else, then the technical ability to implement that vision and I really don't think Bellingham has either. He's not a passing player that creates space and time for others, he takes it from them.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower

ozzie owl
Coach
Coach
Posts: 22012
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
Has thanked: 230 times
Been thanked: 67 times

Re: England Squad

Post by ozzie owl »

Nice One Cyril wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:52 am
ozzie owl wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:43 am
Nice One Cyril wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:36 pm
Con M wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:22 pm
ozzie owl wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:52 am England 1 Greece 2

One word sums England this morning shambles.

With what looked like 4-1-5-0 this morning England were terrible it looked like a contest to see how any attacking players England to wedge into one side. I had no idea where Palmer was playing, Foden and Bellingham don't work together.

As for the defence as make shift left back ( Lewis) and Stones showed why he is bench player.

Why didn't Watkins start?

Only positive was the cracking goal by Bellingham ( didn't do much else).
And not sure, did Bellingham’s goal take a deflection on the way to the goalkeeper’s glove.

First win by Greece 🇬🇷 at Wembley. Good tribute to the late George Baldock.

ps, I missed the start - did the England manager (what’s his name?) sing God Save The King?
Bellingham thinks the whole game is about him, plays like his Dad has promised him sixpence if he scores.
Another drab performance which matched the shirt colour.

Only highlights were the TAA free kick goal and the debt pass from Angel to set up Grealish. Other than falling over constantly it was (yet) another invisible game by Bellingham in the number 10 role.
IMO the 10 position requires vision and spatial awareness above all else, then the technical ability to implement that vision and I really don't think Bellingham has either. He's not a passing player that creates space and time for others, he takes it from them.
Surely Palmer should be the number 10 and I bring Wharton to play as the defensive midfield spot next to Rice.

Why does Kane keep dropping so deep?

User avatar
haywood djablowme
Star Player
Star Player
Posts: 3424
Joined: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:42 pm
Has thanked: 35 times
Been thanked: 28 times

Re: England Squad

Post by haywood djablowme »

Tuchel in the hot seat.. thoughts??
SAASL SUNDAY PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPION 2010 2011
SAASL CHALLENGE CUP WINNER 2008 2010 2011
SAASL CHAMPION OF CHAMPIONS WINNER 2010
SAASL CICHANOWSKI SHIELD WINNER 2009 2011 2012

ozzie owl
Coach
Coach
Posts: 22012
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
Has thanked: 230 times
Been thanked: 67 times

Re: England Squad

Post by ozzie owl »

haywood djablowme wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:53 am Tuchel in the hot seat.. thoughts??
Wow the reality is that with so few English managers in the EPL where do the FA turn? Other than Eddie Howe the other English managers in EPL are at teams at the bottom end of the table.

Looks like the FA think they have the depth in talent to have a serious challenge for the WC in 2026 and have rolled the dice on a proven winner with big club sides.

Post Reply