When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

The forum is for discussion of club football outside Australia and national team football Please do not post any offensive or malicious comments.

Moderators: BillShankly, arxidi, ruud, Judge Judy, Forum Admins

Post Reply
User avatar
El Capitano
Star Player
Star Player
Posts: 4226
Joined: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:29 am

When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by El Capitano »

I always thought refs blew the half time & full time whistle when the ball was in a neutral zone.

In this World Cup refs are continually blowing the whistle when teams are in attacking/goal scoring positions. It happened again today in the Netherlands V Uruguay game, where Robben had broken free only to be stopped by the halftime whistle. Robben and the rest of the Dutch team weren't to happy about the decision either.

So what is the actual ruling?

Should the ball be in a neutral zone before blowing the whistle? or Once the time is up the whistle goes regardless?
Feel Good Inc.

User avatar
Bomber
Vice Chairman
Vice Chairman
Posts: 60467
Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:40 am
Has thanked: 44 times
Been thanked: 130 times

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Bomber »

Ref's decision. Only time he needs to wait is if a penalty has been awarded.

There is a "spirit" in which games or halves should be finished, I believe, but in theory, the ball can be not in "neutral zone" for too long sometimes and the call has to be made.
Ignore this signature

ozzie owl
Coach
Coach
Posts: 21837
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
Has thanked: 215 times
Been thanked: 51 times

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by ozzie owl »

El Capitano wrote:I always thought refs blew the half time & full time whistle when the ball was in a neutral zone.

In this World Cup refs are continually blowing the whistle when teams are in attacking/goal scoring positions. It happened again today in the Netherlands V Uruguay game, where Robben had broken free only to be stopped by the halftime whistle. Robben and the rest of the Dutch team weren't to happy about the decision either.

So what is the actual ruling?

Should the ball be in a neutral zone before blowing the whistle? or Once the time is up the whistle goes regardless?

You blow full time when its full time regardless of where the ball is on the park.

SILENT P
Star Player
Star Player
Posts: 3940
Joined: Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:12 am

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by SILENT P »

I remember being invlolved in an ABE v Campbelltown game, Ang Giannitto was heading towards goal for a one on one with the keeper when the referee blew for full time!!

Lucky we were 1-0 up at that time.
STAY ON YOUR FEET

User avatar
Dad's Army
Bench Warmer
Bench Warmer
Posts: 749
Joined: Wed May 05, 2010 10:03 am

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Dad's Army »

ozzie owl wrote:You blow full time when its full time regardless of where the ball is on the park.
Spot on (although if a penalty has been awarded ie. Uruguay v Ghana) it has to be taken.

BADA BING
Star Player
Star Player
Posts: 2995
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:59 pm

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by BADA BING »

same thing happened to last week, we had a corner and the ref blew for half time ffs and we were loosing 2-1

Mr Magoo
Apprentice
Apprentice
Posts: 243
Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:35 am

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Mr Magoo »

ozzie owl wrote:
El Capitano wrote:I always thought refs blew the half time & full time whistle when the ball was in a neutral zone.

In this World Cup refs are continually blowing the whistle when teams are in attacking/goal scoring positions. It happened again today in the Netherlands V Uruguay game, where Robben had broken free only to be stopped by the halftime whistle. Robben and the rest of the Dutch team weren't to happy about the decision either.

So what is the actual ruling?

Should the ball be in a neutral zone before blowing the whistle? or Once the time is up the whistle goes regardless?

You blow full time when its full time regardless of where the ball is on the park.
Even if it's heading into the net? Now that'd be controversial. :!:

User avatar
Dad's Army
Bench Warmer
Bench Warmer
Posts: 749
Joined: Wed May 05, 2010 10:03 am

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Dad's Army »

Time is time.

User avatar
Bomber
Vice Chairman
Vice Chairman
Posts: 60467
Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:40 am
Has thanked: 44 times
Been thanked: 130 times

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Bomber »

Bodø Glimt wrote:Time is time.
...and I'm fast running out. :wink:

I remember adding on a few minutes in a game I reffed many many years ago (was only a friendly) and was about to blow for end of game when bloke hit a cracker shot toward goal, I hesitated, defender on the goal line handballed and I had no option but to award penalty and goal was scored. I often thought after had I blown for end of game when I was about to, well, it wouldnt have happened, but would have copped more flak I'm sure, after all, some still take friendlies very seriously. I still think what I did was in the spirit of the game and secondly, no-one could argue when the game was over as being the ref, I was in charge.
Ignore this signature

Mr Magoo
Apprentice
Apprentice
Posts: 243
Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:35 am

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Mr Magoo »

Bodø Glimt wrote:Time is time.
Time is not time in football. There is no hooter, it's refs call.

Peter_Griffin
Apprentice
Apprentice
Posts: 135
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:15 am

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Peter_Griffin »

When the time is up

User avatar
Dad's Army
Bench Warmer
Bench Warmer
Posts: 749
Joined: Wed May 05, 2010 10:03 am

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Dad's Army »

Mr Magoo wrote:
Bodø Glimt wrote:Time is time.
it's refs call.

Still doesn't matter where the ball is.

Peter_Griffin
Apprentice
Apprentice
Posts: 135
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:15 am

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Peter_Griffin »

Is Bodo Glimt the pseudonym you use for your fantasy rolepay?

limozeen
Team Manager
Team Manager
Posts: 7852
Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:20 am
Been thanked: 5 times

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by limozeen »

Mr Magoo wrote:
Bodø Glimt wrote:Time is time.
Time is not time in football. There is no hooter, it's refs call.
Well there's the problem. We need more HOOTERS in football! :wink:
Go Reds

Check out Ground Phase at...
http://www.reverbnation.com/groundphase
http://youtu.be/TkdT5gPXQkM

'66 '68 '69 '71 '73 '76 '78 '13 '15

ozzie owl
Coach
Coach
Posts: 21837
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
Has thanked: 215 times
Been thanked: 51 times

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by ozzie owl »

limozeen wrote:
Mr Magoo wrote:
Bodø Glimt wrote:Time is time.
Time is not time in football. There is no hooter, it's refs call.
Well there's the problem. We need more HOOTERS in football! :wink:

FIFA banned the Dutch Hooter girls.

Nice One Cyril
Assistant Coach
Assistant Coach
Posts: 19526
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:55 am
Been thanked: 117 times

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Nice One Cyril »

Peter_Griffin wrote:Is Bodo Glimt the pseudonym you use for your fantasy rolepay?
More to the point, are you Loppermann in disguise? :clown:
Victor Meldrew wrote:A decent govt..... like uk. :lol:
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower

Mr Magoo
Apprentice
Apprentice
Posts: 243
Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:35 am

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Mr Magoo »

Bodø Glimt wrote:
Mr Magoo wrote:
Bodø Glimt wrote:Time is time.
it's refs call.

Still doesn't matter where the ball is.
So you're saying that Time is the Ref's Time? So when the fourth official adds 3 minutes but there's a sub or an injury during that time so the ref adds another minute on his own and before you know it there could be a whole minute of play either cut off or added on that shouldn't have been there.

Nice One Cyril
Assistant Coach
Assistant Coach
Posts: 19526
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:55 am
Been thanked: 117 times

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Nice One Cyril »

Mr Magoo wrote:
Bodø Glimt wrote:
Mr Magoo wrote:Still doesn't matter where the ball is.
So you're saying that Time is the Ref's Time? So when the fourth official adds 3 minutes but there's a sub or an injury during that time so the ref adds another minute on his own and before you know it there could be a whole minute of play either cut off or added on that shouldn't have been there.

Isn't the added time displayed the advised minimum there should be? The referee is then the sole arbiter of when enough has been played.
Victor Meldrew wrote:A decent govt..... like uk. :lol:
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower

Kitchimo
Club Captain
Club Captain
Posts: 6326
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:08 am

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Kitchimo »

ozzie owl wrote:
limozeen wrote:
Mr Magoo wrote: Time is not time in football. There is no hooter, it's refs call.
Well there's the problem. We need more HOOTERS in football! :wink:

FIFA banned the Dutch Hooter girls.
Thankfully they didn't ban Larissa Riquelme
http://www.oisc.com.au

Championships
A Grade: 1990, 1991, 1992, 2007, 2010
B Grade: 2001, 2007
C Grade: 2004, 2010
D Grade: 2009, 2010

Cups
A Grade: 1989
B Grade: 2002

User avatar
Hawkesy
Assistant Coach
Assistant Coach
Posts: 16451
Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:02 pm

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Hawkesy »

Mr Magoo wrote: So you're saying that Time is the Ref's Time? So when the fourth official adds 3 minutes but there's a sub or an injury during that time so the ref adds another minute on his own and before you know it there could be a whole minute of play either cut off or added on that shouldn't have been there.

the 4th official doesn't add any time on, he merely displays the minimum amount of times still to be played in the game. If there's an injury then more time will be added by the ref.

Also, the game ends when the ref says so, position of the ball is irrelevant (unless it's a penalty).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsZ2Qfuwc_Q
Things I am owed because they're too tight to pay up:

Colossus: One House

Costa: One Lunch

Oh and add in

Colossus: one photo and one letter from his "attorney".

Kitchimo
Club Captain
Club Captain
Posts: 6326
Joined: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:08 am

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Kitchimo »

I can't see the clip at work, but a good example is when Graham Poll ended the game against Australia vs Croatia in the 2006 World Cup :lol:
http://www.oisc.com.au

Championships
A Grade: 1990, 1991, 1992, 2007, 2010
B Grade: 2001, 2007
C Grade: 2004, 2010
D Grade: 2009, 2010

Cups
A Grade: 1989
B Grade: 2002

Mr Magoo
Apprentice
Apprentice
Posts: 243
Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:35 am

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by Mr Magoo »

Hawkesy wrote:
Mr Magoo wrote: So you're saying that Time is the Ref's Time? So when the fourth official adds 3 minutes but there's a sub or an injury during that time so the ref adds another minute on his own and before you know it there could be a whole minute of play either cut off or added on that shouldn't have been there.

the 4th official doesn't add any time on, he merely displays the minimum amount of times still to be played in the game. If there's an injury then more time will be added by the ref.

Also, the game ends when the ref says so, position of the ball is irrelevant (unless it's a penalty).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsZ2Qfuwc_Q
My Portugese is terrible but it looked like there was some time wasting going on there. Looks like the refs have got enough to worry about with the increasing speed of the game and camera/slowmotion technology without worrying about timekeeping. Are they making more mistakes or are we just able to see them better?

User avatar
predator
Bench Warmer
Bench Warmer
Posts: 893
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:44 pm

Re: When to blow the whistle - Half time/Full time

Post by predator »

Hawkesy wrote:
Also, the game ends when the ref says so, position of the ball is irrelevant (unless it's a penalty).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsZ2Qfuwc_Q
Clive "the book" Thomas, what a great ref. more entertaing than the game some times

Post Reply