Chelsea4thewin wrote:well i would love to hear the Man United young guns who will set the premier league a light?
we are at least trying to get some academy players pushing through to the first team, we have already seen Kakuta, Bruma, Sturridge in the EPL this year
The last player who came through ANY academy in the premier league and set it alight is probably wayne rooney at everton, and before him michael owen at liverpool.
Kakuta might be the only HALF decent player out of the lot you named, but all he really has is pace going for him.
Manchester United might not have superstar players coming out of there academy like the class of 92, but what they have are alot of players that play the system and go out there and do the job.
Chelsea4thewin wrote:well i would love to hear the Man United young guns who will set the premier league a light?
we are at least trying to get some academy players pushing through to the first team, we have already seen Kakuta, Bruma, Sturridge in the EPL this year
The last player who came through ANY academy in the premier league and set it alight is probably wayne rooney at everton, and before him michael owen at liverpool.
Kakuta might be the only HALF decent player out of the lot you named, but all he really has is pace going for him.
Manchester United might not have superstar players coming out of there academy like the class of 92, but what they have are alot of players that play the system and go out there and do the job.
Superstars dont win trophies, teams do
You didn't win anything without Ronaldo last year.....
Kakuta has more than just pace. Van Aanholt is quite good too. I think you're underestimating the young players we have...
MUFCBOY wrote:
The last player who came through ANY academy in the premier league and set it alight is probably wayne rooney at everton, and before him michael owen at liverpool.
Kakuta might be the only HALF decent player out of the lot you named, but all he really has is pace going for him.
Manchester United might not have superstar players coming out of there academy like the class of 92, but what they have are alot of players that play the system and go out there and do the job.
Superstars dont win trophies, teams do
Why is every Man U supporter I hear comment on football in general such a fucking arrogant wanker?
Are they just bred like that? Spoiled by the 90's/00's?
MUFCBOY wrote:
The last player who came through ANY academy in the premier league and set it alight is probably wayne rooney at everton, and before him michael owen at liverpool.
Kakuta might be the only HALF decent player out of the lot you named, but all he really has is pace going for him.
Manchester United might not have superstar players coming out of there academy like the class of 92, but what they have are alot of players that play the system and go out there and do the job.
Superstars dont win trophies, teams do
Why is every Man U supporter I hear comment on football in general such a fucking arrogant wanker?
Are they just bred like that? Spoiled by the 90's/00's?
Get a grip.
I like this guy.
haywood djablowme wrote:
I believe Arsenal have improved more than the Poo! (we are only 5 pts behind you)
MUFCBOY wrote:
The last player who came through ANY academy in the premier league and set it alight is probably wayne rooney at everton, and before him michael owen at liverpool.
Kakuta might be the only HALF decent player out of the lot you named, but all he really has is pace going for him.
Manchester United might not have superstar players coming out of there academy like the class of 92, but what they have are alot of players that play the system and go out there and do the job.
Superstars dont win trophies, teams do
Why is every Man U supporter I hear comment on football in general such a fucking arrogant wanker?
Are they just bred like that? Spoiled by the 90's/00's?
Get a grip.
It's usual for teams that wear red I think
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Danny Blanchflower
Chelsea4thewin wrote:well i would love to hear the Man United young guns who will set the premier league a light?
we are at least trying to get some academy players pushing through to the first team, we have already seen Kakuta, Bruma, Sturridge in the EPL this year
Chelsea dont push players through most of them get sent out on loan never to be heard of again and then that Russian crook just gets his chequebook out
About the first time i can recall Chelski playing more than one young player in any of their games! Usually play all experinced 'reserves'. Unlike Arsenal and Man Utd who have been doing it for years and therefore IMO have better depth but not neccessarily better first 11's.
Hold ya horses................who have Man Utd bought through the ranks in regards untried players Im struggling to name more than Evans and Rafael... Do tell :?
How many games (premier League, Champions League) have Kakuta and Bruma actualy started. You carry on like like Chelski are the West Ham of player production! The first time Chelski play more than two young players they lose to Newcastle Reserves, Get a grip kid.
Man United and arsenal have given more young players a senior game than most top teams.
hero2zero wrote:How many games (premier League, Champions League) have Kakuta and Bruma actualy started. You carry on like like Chelski are the West Ham of player production! The first time Chelski play more than two young players they lose to Newcastle Reserves, Get a grip kid.
Man United and arsenal have given more young players a senior game than most top teams.
and you carry on like West Ham are the Ajax of player production
hero2zero wrote:How many games (premier League, Champions League) have Kakuta and Bruma actualy started. You carry on like like Chelski are the West Ham of player production! The first time Chelski play more than two young players they lose to Newcastle Reserves, Get a grip kid.
Man United and arsenal have given more young players a senior game than most top teams.
i guess we dont really need to seeing we did the English double last year
Chelsea4thewin wrote:
if Torres doesnt score in the next 3 games i will put a liverpool symbol as my avatar for the rest of the season
Hold ya horses................who have Man Utd bought through the ranks in regards untried players Im struggling to name more than Evans and Rafael... Do tell :?
Neville, Giggs, Scholes, Brown, O'Shea, Evans, Di Silva, Fletcher, Gibson.........
Hold ya horses................who have Man Utd bought through the ranks in regards untried players Im struggling to name more than Evans and Rafael... Do tell :?
Neville, Giggs, Scholes, Brown, O'Shea, Evans, Di Silva, Fletcher, Gibson.........
exactly, fletcher, evans and gibson might not be superstar players, but they go out there and get the job done.
name me any team thats produced 5 superstar players from there youth in 1 go? it just doesnt happen. you will get some above average and maybe 1 superstar
Hold ya horses................who have Man Utd bought through the ranks in regards untried players Im struggling to name more than Evans and Rafael... Do tell :?
Neville, Giggs, Scholes, Brown, O'Shea, Evans, Di Silva, Fletcher, Gibson.........
exactly, fletcher, evans and gibson might not be superstar players, but they go out there and get the job done.
name me any team thats produced 5 superstar players from there youth in 1 go? it just doesnt happen. you will get some above average and maybe 1 superstar
real madrid man!! zidane, figo, beckham, roberto larcos, zizou, gravesen, owen, and that's just 5!
not really any recent players through the academy then
giggs, neville, scholes all the wrong side of 30, its probably not really relevant because when these players started in the early 90s most of the players were english born
Chelsea4thewin wrote:
if Torres doesnt score in the next 3 games i will put a liverpool symbol as my avatar for the rest of the season
Chelsea4thewin wrote:not really any recent players through the academy then
giggs, neville, scholes all the wrong side of 30, its probably not really relevant because when these players started in the early 90s most of the players were english born
This is just the players that are currently playing for United. Lots have left the club over the years after playing for the first team after coming through the academy.
Sorry but you can't really accuse United of not developing young players. And these young players have to break into league/european cup winning teams thus making it even harder. Young players at other clubs like Liverpool would find it a lot easier to break into the first team.
hero2zero wrote:How many games (premier League, Champions League) have Kakuta and Bruma actualy started. You carry on like like Chelski are the West Ham of player production! The first time Chelski play more than two young players they lose to Newcastle Reserves, Get a grip kid.
Man United and arsenal have given more young players a senior game than most top teams.
Players like Kakuta, Sturridge, and van aanholt are players that we will help get to a first team level, we can't simply spend all the money we used to.
We've also tried getting Neymar, and Lukaku, to add to Ramires, and John Obi Mikel ( who Man U were going to sign... you know... that team that's awesome with youth products).
We bought Yossi for cover, same with Jerkoff, but other than that even Turnbull is young.
The only reason the reserves of other teams start in EPL fixtures is due to lack of depth in the squad, you know that, i know that.... everyone knows that!
OldRedback wrote:Couldn't agree more C4W - amazed this game was worthy of a whole topic let alone people getting excited about it - this is a cup designed for the likes of Spurs, Newcastle and Man Utd ( last season!) to try and get some silverware because they won't win anything really worth having!
I would imagine that big clubs in England would want to win any trophy before them, particularly seeing as their the only nation in the big 3 leagues which can opt for the septuple (Premier League, FA Cup, Champions League, Carling Cup, World Club Cup, UEFA Super Cup and Community Shield) is it? Guaranteed place in history for any team that could do that.
Hold ya horses................who have Man Utd bought through the ranks in regards untried players 
Im struggling to name more than Evans and Rafael... Do tell :?
