Sunday Div 1 coaches for 2012

[BADA BING]

Who has been confirmed as Sunday Div 1 coaches for next season?

[KING NUGGETT]

I heard Motts will be at the Downs next year...

[BADA BING]

what about Gardens nuggett?

[KING NUGGETT]

what about Gardens nuggett?

In the 4yrs under Cooky the Gardens have....

1 X DIV.1 LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP, MAY-BE 2
2 X CHALLENGE CUPS, MAY-BE 3
2 X CICHANOWSKI SHIELDS
2 X MAYORS CUPS
1 X CHAMPIONS OF CHAMPIONS, MAY-BE 2

6 MAJOR TROPHIES SO FAR!!

He is very well Respect by the Playing Group & I believe one of the Best Coaches going around ATM, his Record it speaks for it's self.

Unlike some people theories, I'm pretty sure that Good Teams don't just Coach themselves!

Cooky is a Major part of all the Success Gardens have had & are having...

I'm not sure if he has been approached by the Club, but I'm sure the job is his again if he want's to Coach next Season...

COME ON UUUUU GARDENS!!!

[Cantona.7]

what about Gardens nuggett?

In the 4yrs under Cooky the Gardens have....

1 X DIV.1 LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP, MAY-BE 2
2 X CHALLENGE CUPS, MAY-BE 3
2 X CICHANOWSKI SHIELDS
2 X MAYORS CUPS
1 X CHAMPIONS OF CHAMPIONS, MAY-BE 2

6 MAJOR TROPHIES SO FAR!!

He is very well Respect by the Playing Group & I believe one of the Best Coaches going around ATM, his Record it speaks for it's self.

Unlike some people theories, I'm pretty sure that Good Teams don't just Coach themselves!

Cooky is a Major part of all the Success Gardens have had & are having...

I'm not sure if he has been approached by the Club, but I'm sure the job is his again if he want's to Coach next Season...

COME ON UUUUU GARDENS!!!

When you put it on paper that is a phenomenal record! Youd think perhaps a Fed Club would come knocking soon. Congrats to Cooky and Gardens on the recent successes and the pending back to back Championships. Another year of the Nugget (But he has put his balls on the line, and copped it sweet when it was there to be taken!)

[BADA BING]

agreed nuggett the record speaks for itself.

What about the newcomers in Div 1 next year, to early to speak about your coaches or will you be going up to div 1 with the same coach?

[Outlaw 2.0]

Modbury Vista will be coached by Bud again next year, unless something dramatic changes in the off season.

[andyb]

what about Gardens nuggett?

In the 4yrs under Cooky the Gardens have....

1 X DIV.1 LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP, MAY-BE 2
2 X CHALLENGE CUPS, MAY-BE 3
2 X CICHANOWSKI SHIELDS
2 X MAYORS CUPS
1 X CHAMPIONS OF CHAMPIONS, MAY-BE 2

6 MAJOR TROPHIES SO FAR!!

He is very well Respect by the Playing Group & I believe one of the Best Coaches going around ATM, his Record it speaks for it's self.

Unlike some people theories, I'm pretty sure that Good Teams don't just Coach themselves!

Cooky is a Major part of all the Success Gardens have had & are having...

I'm not sure if he has been approached by the Club, but I'm sure the job is his again if he want's to Coach next Season...

COME ON UUUUU GARDENS!!!

genuine question, not trying to bring down Cooky (as this record is amazing!), but is the record that good because of the coach? or because of the quality of players he has to work with? I think its a fair question as if you look at the Vale, last year the reserves won the league and this season theyve struggled to just 9 points - up to round 15... They have the same coach but have probably 5-6 different players in the regular starting 11...

[KING NUGGETT]

Andyb, Cooky went through the opposite to the Vale Reserves in his 1st 2 seasons he was only 3 points away from getting relegated He kept the core together, lost a couple of silverware hunters & then he went out & attracted the players he did to do what he has done. He took all the knockers criticism on the chin & stood proud through out that time. I don't think that you can take anything away from Cooky for the Gardens success in fact the opposite, I believe he is the major reason for there success...

[Left Right Out]

Andyb, Cooky went through the opposite to the Vale Reserves in his 1st 2 seasons he was only 3 points away from getting relegated He kept the core together, lost a couple of silverware hunters & then he went out & attracted the players he did to do what he has done. He took all the knockers criticism on the chin & stood proud through out that time. I don't think that you can take anything away from Cooky for the Gardens success in fact the opposite, I believe he is the major reason for there success...

I get what your saying Nugget but heres another example, Aaron won the league at Florina that had several "Silverware hunters" that also were "Compensation hunters" when the compenasation stopped where did those players and Florina end up?

Cooky is part of the reason (a Major one actually) but you can not honestly say that compenasation to players hasnt helped at all either.

[mvsc]

with all due respect at amateur level the coaches only do so much. 3 or 4 key changes in personnel can either cause a team to shoot up or down the table. recruitment is a much more important job than actual coaching. obviously cooky knows what he is doing given the recruitment at gardens in the last two years!

compare gardens 2009 to 2010, compare florina 2010 to 2011, compare TTG 2008/9 to 2010.

[KING NUGGETT]

I get what your saying Nugget but heres another example, Aaron won the league at Florina that had several "Silverware hunters" that also were "Compensation hunters" when the compenasation stopped where did those players and Florina end up?

Cooky is part of the reason (a Major one actually) but you can not honestly say that compenasation to players hasnt helped at all either.

with all due respect at amateur level the coaches only do so much. 3 or 4 key changes in personnel can either cause a team to shoot up or down the table. recruitment is a much more important job than actual coaching. obviously cooky knows what he is doing given the recruitment at gardens in the last two years!

compare gardens 2009 to 2010, compare florina 2010 to 2011, compare TTG 2008/9 to 2010.

What are you on about fantasista amateur level the coaches only do so much you obviously have no grip on reality. Bosa v Gardens 85min, substitution made by the coach substitution score the equaliser to send it to extra time! Not the Coach & I can think of loads of them throught the season....


Seriously Andy what a load of sh*t 90% of the playing group are on normal match payments 2-3 players are not but let me tell you they aint on any where near the figures that have been spoken about on here before. Alot of those players could get alot more at other Premier League Clubs than they do at the Gardens, but they have chosen to play at the Gardens for there own reasons.
We Play in the Sunday Premier League we & others have been compensating players for years.
To even start talking about compensation in the context of this topic Sunday Div 1 coaches for 2012 & what Cooky has achieved sorry Andy you lost me totally.

The proof he is a Great Coach is that he went through 2 terrible years neally being religated twice, he kept the core group together went & attracted the players he did & is the
MAJOR REASON for GARDENS SUCCESS!

So all you chardonnays that want to say it was the players that he had, or the money that Gardens Pay. You were the same chardonnays bagging him in 08-09.

I've been there, seen the Club when it was DOWN & OUT, RELIGATED, then PROMOTED, & now LEAGUE CHAMPIONS!

You can ALL have you say & have your views on why the GARDENS are were we are today, but let me tell you I know.
We are where we are today because of MANY PEOPLES DEDICATION TO THE CLUB & HARD WORK OVER MANY MANY YEARS.

And guess what I couldn't really give a rats about what you think & what lies you tell about our CLUB....

COME ON UUUUU GARDENS!!!

2011 BACK 2 BACK & LEAGUE DOUBLE WINNERS....

[mvsc]

I get what your saying Nugget but heres another example, Aaron won the league at Florina that had several "Silverware hunters" that also were "Compensation hunters" when the compenasation stopped where did those players and Florina end up?

Cooky is part of the reason (a Major one actually) but you can not honestly say that compenasation to players hasnt helped at all either.

with all due respect at amateur level the coaches only do so much. 3 or 4 key changes in personnel can either cause a team to shoot up or down the table. recruitment is a much more important job than actual coaching. obviously cooky knows what he is doing given the recruitment at gardens in the last two years!

compare gardens 2009 to 2010, compare florina 2010 to 2011, compare TTG 2008/9 to 2010.

The proof he is a Great Coach is that he went through 2 terrible years neally being religated twice, he kept the core group together went & attracted the players he did & is the
MAJOR REASON for GARDENS SUCCESS!

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2011 BACK 2 BACK & LEAGUE DOUBLE WINNERS....


[/b]

that's pretty much what we both said. recruitment > coaching in the amatuer league.

[KING NUGGETT]

Read Again...

I get what your saying Nugget but heres another example, Aaron won the league at Florina that had several "Silverware hunters" that also were "Compensation hunters" when the compenasation stopped where did those players and Florina end up?

Cooky is part of the reason (a Major one actually) but you can not honestly say that compenasation to players hasnt helped at all either.

with all due respect at amateur level the coaches only do so much. 3 or 4 key changes in personnel can either cause a team to shoot up or down the table. recruitment is a much more important job than actual coaching. obviously cooky knows what he is doing given the recruitment at gardens in the last two years!

compare gardens 2009 to 2010, compare florina 2010 to 2011, compare TTG 2008/9 to 2010.

What are you on about fantasista amateur level the coaches only do so much you obviously have no grip on reality. Bosa v Gardens 85min, substitution made by the coach substitution score the equaliser to send it to extra time! Not the Coach & I can think of loads of them throught the season....


Seriously Andy what a load of sh*t 90% of the playing group are on normal match payments 2-3 players are not but let me tell you they aint on any where near the figures that have been spoken about on here before. Alot of those players could get alot more at other Premier League Clubs than they do at the Gardens, but they have chosen to play at the Gardens for there own reasons.
We Play in the Sunday Premier League we & others have been compensating players for years.
To even start talking about compensation in the context of this topic Sunday Div 1 coaches for 2012 & what Cooky has achieved sorry Andy you lost me totally.

The proof he is a Great Coach is that he went through 2 terrible years neally being religated twice, he kept the core group together went & attracted the players he did & is the
MAJOR REASON for GARDENS SUCCESS!

So all you chardonnays that want to say it was the players that he had, or the money that Gardens Pay. You were the same chardonnays bagging him in 08-09.

I've been there, seen the Club when it was DOWN & OUT, RELIGATED, then PROMOTED, & now LEAGUE CHAMPIONS!

You can ALL have you say & have your views on why the GARDENS are were we are today, but let me tell you I know.
We are where we are today because of MANY PEOPLES DEDICATION TO THE CLUB & HARD WORK OVER MANY MANY YEARS.

And guess what I couldn't really give a rats about what you think & what lies you tell about our CLUB....

COME ON UUUUU GARDENS!!!

2011 BACK 2 BACK & LEAGUE DOUBLE WINNERS....

[brooksy7]

Andyb, Cooky went through the opposite to the Vale Reserves in his 1st 2 seasons he was only 3 points away from getting relegated He kept the core together, lost a couple of silverware hunters & then he went out & attracted the players he did to do what he has done. He took all the knockers criticism on the chin & stood proud through out that time. I don't think that you can take anything away from Cooky for the Gardens success in fact the opposite, I believe he is the major reason for there success...

I get what your saying Nugget but heres another example,

Aaron won the league at Florina that had several "Silverware hunters" that also were "Compensation hunters" when the compenasation stopped where did those players and Florina end up?

Cooky is part of the reason (a Major one actually) but you can not honestly say that compenasation to players hasnt helped at all either.

Andy If you dont know wht ur takling about maybe refrain from talking. I went to florina bcoz a friend was coaching there(Azza), I cant and wont comment why Bert went there as I know the reason(s) but wont speak for him. You my friend are not the same person who rang me when coaching TTG and offered "Compensation" as you put it??? Now I wont vent my reason for not being at Florina this year and were they end up is there business, but let me tell you my friend and I said this to Cooky just this past Sun nite tht if he was coaching Florina last year and read carefully I believe tht Florina wld have achieved wht the Gdns did and hope to do this year. Cookey is a very good communicator and knows how to get the best out of players and squads. Yes the gdns have a good squad but so do Chel$ki and tht doesnt lead to automatic success does it?? I was ready to retire after health issues last year and after spending an hour with Cookey had the passion rekindled tht id lost after the year b4 and thru health. So to say his ability is simply bcoz his club pays Compensation is nothing more than silly and quit frank maybe a little bitter on ur part. Side not do you think you wld have had the Vale in a better position if the board had of given the job to the only other applicant tht applied besides Azza????

[Left Right Out]

Andy If you dont know wht ur takling about maybe refrain from talking. I went to florina bcoz a friend was coaching there(Azza), I cant and wont comment why Bert went there as I know the reason(s) but wont speak for him. You my friend are not the same person who rang me when coaching TTG and offered "Compensation" as you put it??? Now I wont vent my reason for not being at Florina this year and were they end up is there business, but let me tell you my friend and I said this to Cooky just this past Sun nite tht if he was coaching Florina last year and read carefully I believe tht Florina wld have achieved wht the Gdns did and hope to do this year. Cookey is a very good communicator and knows how to get the best out of players and squads. Yes the gdns have a good squad but so do Chel$ki and tht doesnt lead to automatic success does it?? I was ready to retire after health issues last year and after spending an hour with Cookey had the passion rekindled tht id lost after the year b4 and thru health. So to say his ability is simply bcoz his club pays Compensation is nothing more than silly and quit frank maybe a little bitter on ur part. Side not do you think you wld have had the Vale in a better position if the board had of given the job to the only other applicant tht applied besides Azza????[/quote]

Read line 1 mate and take your own advice but before you do please tell everyone why you left Florina mate. What on earth am I bitter about?
I wasnt talking about TTG I wasnt talking about the Vale. I was talking about compensating players (any clubs) and the success it brings BUT what happens when theres no more compensation. Thats fine if you and Nelly want to think that everyone on Gardens is on the same money. Time will tell I suppose. It was a debate and comments were made, I put my 2 cents worth in.

[KING NUGGETT]

It's bullsh*t Andy I'm talking about our Clubs & Coaches success & you want to talk about player payments???

I find that totally disrespectful especially coming from you....

COME ON UUUUU GARDENS!!!

[Left Right Out]

It's bullsh*t Andy I'm talking about our Clubs & Coaches success & you want to talk about player payments???

I find that totally disrespectful especially coming from you....

COME ON UUUUU GARDENS!!!

Sorry to have lost you in translation Nelly, Good Coaches are great to have and Steve is one of them NO ARGUMENTS THERE!

Nothing disrespectful at all Nelly.

[Ollo Ollo]

So Nugget, you saying the dollars have not a made a difference to the Gardens success over the past two years??? What planet do you live on. Florina and Gardens are perfect example of what happens when the dollars are splashed and what happens when they are not.

No disrespect to Cooky because he is a good coach, but let’s face it the money has made all the difference to your success.

[KING NUGGETT]

So Nugget, you saying the dollars have not a made a difference to the Gardens success over the past two years??? What planet do you live on. Florina and Gardens are perfect example of what happens when the dollars are splashed and what happens when they are not.

No disrespect to Cooky because he is a good coach, but let’s face it the money has made all the difference to your success.

Bullsh*t Ollo Ollo we were paying very similar player payments in 2008-09 as in 2010-11 not much has changed except we kept the players on the park 2010-11,
mate I know was involved in the running of the Club for 10 Years.
Where is you information from Chinese Whisper?
Like I said 90% of our Players are on the same match payments, it's very easy for under achieving Clubs to make excuses for there lack of success...

[KVP]

So Nugget, you saying the dollars have not a made a difference to the Gardens success over the past two years??? What planet do you live on. Florina and Gardens are perfect example of what happens when the dollars are splashed and what happens when they are not.

No disrespect to Cooky because he is a good coach, but let’s face it the money has made all the difference to your success.

And you know what, good luck to Parafield. Maybe it's time other teams took a leaf out of Parafields book as Florina did to make things happen at the club. At the end of the day, Parafield are the benchmark, $$$ are all part of the game, which bring in the good players. Nothing is for free in this world and look at the upside of this, the Sunday Division 1 League is gathering stature as the years progress. IMO the only thing amatuer about it is the word amatuer. It is a highly fast paced league and players that have made the switch from Federation to SAASL would not be able to say it is a walk in the park every Sunday.

[gee_kay]

How does a topic reg. Who is coaching where in 2012 been turned into a Gardens argument. While I'm def not a fan of Gardens I take my hat off and respect them. Their coach is probably one of the best going around alongside Simmo and Azza. What and if they pay their players is their business and no one elses. Either way the highest paid squad doesn't always get results.

[brooksy7]

Andy If you dont know wht ur takling about maybe refrain from talking. I went to florina bcoz a friend was coaching there(Azza), I cant and wont comment why Bert went there as I know the reason(s) but wont speak for him. You my friend are not the same person who rang me when coaching TTG and offered "Compensation" as you put it??? Now I wont vent my reason for not being at Florina this year and were they end up is there business, but let me tell you my friend and I said this to Cooky just this past Sun nite tht if he was coaching Florina last year and read carefully I believe tht Florina wld have achieved wht the Gdns did and hope to do this year. Cookey is a very good communicator and knows how to get the best out of players and squads. Yes the gdns have a good squad but so do Chel$ki and tht doesnt lead to automatic success does it?? I was ready to retire after health issues last year and after spending an hour with Cookey had the passion rekindled tht id lost after the year b4 and thru health. So to say his ability is simply bcoz his club pays Compensation is nothing more than silly and quit frank maybe a little bitter on ur part. Side not do you think you wld have had the Vale in a better position if the board had of given the job to the only other applicant tht applied besides Azza????

Read line 1 mate and take your own advice but before you do please tell everyone why you left Florina mate. What on earth am I bitter about?
I wasnt talking about TTG I wasnt talking about the Vale. I was talking about compensating players (any clubs) and the success it brings BUT what happens when theres no more compensation. Thats fine if you and Nelly want to think that everyone on Gardens is on the same money. Time will tell I suppose. It was a debate and comments were made, I put my 2 cents worth in.[/quote]

Andy you seem to be having a go at players being silverware hunters and compensation hunters. Now tell me wht player who plays wldnt or doesnt want to win silverware??? As for compensation hunters does tht mean tht the coach cant coach if a player/s is getting compensated??? Why I left florina is my business and certaintly not urs and I have no idea why ur bitter, maybe its bcoz you missed out on the Vale job, maybe they've heard like most your not in Cookey's league, just a thought

[#Thirteen]

How does a topic reg. Who is coaching where in 2012 been turned into a Gardens argument. While I'm def not a fan of Gardens I take my hat off and respect them. Their coach is probably one of the best going around alongside Simmo and Azza. What and if they pay their players is their business and no one elses. Either way the highest paid squad doesn't always get results.

Surly GK would be mentioned in that company after his job at Pontian this year #10..... they were a couple of mins from relegation last year

[gee_kay]

How does a topic reg. Who is coaching where in 2012 been turned into a Gardens argument. While I'm def not a fan of Gardens I take my hat off and respect them. Their coach is probably one of the best going around alongside Simmo and Azza. What and if they pay their players is their business and no one elses. Either way the highest paid squad doesn't always get results.

Surly GK would be mentioned in that company after his job at Pontian this year #10..... they were a couple of mins from relegation last year

I wouldn't argue that but would want to see him back it up next year. Simmo, Azza and Cooky have had sides going cosistently for a few years now

[A Mature League]

Just 2 rhetorical questions that can't really be answered !
1. Would Gardens been in the same position in 2011 without Michael Brooks goal scoring contribution ?
2. Would Michael Brooks have gone to Gardens if they had not won all and sundry in 2010 ?

[brooksy7]

Just 2 rhetorical questions that can't really be answered !
1. Would Gardens been in the same position in 2011 without Michael Brooks goal scoring contribution ?
2. Would Michael Brooks have gone to Gardens if they had not won all and sundry in 2010 ?

quest 1 yes as they did it the year b4 so why not this year
quest 2 yes after talking with Cookey it was only then did I decide to commit to playing as ive said b4, due to health i was prob just going to go and watch the match of the round.

Ask urself this did Michael Brooks go to the Vale in 07 bcoz the won all in sundry as you put it, or was it bcoz of the coach then ppl you meet and play with and the friends you make along the way. At Parafield I played with Cookey back in the 80's at Salisbury so the respect was already there from way back, then there is players like Spiby Johno and Stammy tht ive known and played with/against for years and its close to home.
Hope tht inpart helps to clarify whtever it is ur trying to say without saying it.....

[A Mature League]

Just 2 rhetorical questions that can't really be answered !
1. Would Gardens been in the same position in 2011 without Michael Brooks goal scoring contribution ?
2. Would Michael Brooks have gone to Gardens if they had not won all and sundry in 2010 ?

quest 1 yes as they did it the year b4 so why not this year
quest 2 yes after talking with Cookey it was only then did I decide to commit to playing as ive said b4, due to health i was prob just going to go and watch the match of the round.

Ask urself this did Michael Brooks go to the Vale in 07 bcoz the won all in sundry as you put it, or was it bcoz of the coach then ppl you meet and play with and the friends you make along the way. At Parafield I played with Cookey back in the 80's at Salisbury so the respect was already there from way back, then there is players like Spiby Johno and Stammy tht ive known and played with/against for years and its close to home.
Hope tht inpart helps to clarify whtever it is ur trying to say without saying it.....

...but Gardens did have the same coach and most players last year, but you didn't go there then ?

[robinfriday10]

Nugget, how many Knee recons did parafield have in 2009??
Was Stammy in goals??

just a thought

[KING NUGGETT]

Nugget, how many Knee recons did parafield have in 2009??
Was Stammy in goals??

just a thought

In 2008-09 we had 14 1st Team Season Ending Injuries Taylor, Zarwarski, DB, Levay, ect.ect. all quality...
Add to that our poor Disapline worst in the League 6-7 Red cards including Mohamads 1yr Ban from the 08 Cichanowski 3 Reds in the one Game for the Gardens 3 out 1st 2 Games ...
2008 Benny Aldridge was in Goals & left to go to the Downs after they achieved the Double -
09 Matt Peace was in Goals when he wasn't suspended...
10 Anthony Stamm...