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N5 1BH wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:32 pm

The Bourne Identity wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:43 am

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:46 am

The Bourne Identity wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:55 am What did england win?

The same as the australians.

Which was what?

Two tests each but they were really lucky in their two and only won the second one by dubious sportsmanship and the 4th was only drawn because of rain when we were killing them so we’re very unlucky not to have won that one and so should have won the series and been photoed with the pretend urn

Funny you say that. I watched the Back Page the other night and Crash Craddock kept harping on about the Bairstow stumping being probably the best tonic for england and really wasn't worth doing because at the time Australia were moseying along quite well and england looked a bit disjointed and going through the motions (even with bazball). Then that incident seemed to get everyone on the team up and about and more galvanized etc. Throw in the "angry" home crowd and the little edges certainly helped them. Reckon he (Craddock) had a point.
Anyway, shoulda, coulda.........

The results are what they are and fair enough, no one can complain. Was a brilliant series, loved every second of it and yes some controversy and ifs/buts are all part of what made it great. It’s an old cliche but test cricket definitely the winner. Bring on the next one
Funny to note that England and Australia both been docked points for slow over rates when each completed test had a result, guess the answer is to bore everyone with 5 spinners on dirt, lose a few games but still get more points than a pace side. Now who would that benefit ?

The Bourne Identity wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:43 am

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:46 am

The Bourne Identity wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:55 am What did england win?

The same as the australians.

Which was what?

2 test matches

^^^^^^^

was it enough to win the series?????

was it enough to win the Ashes????

MegaBonus wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:15 pm ^^^^^^^

was it enough to win the series?????

was it enough to win the Ashes????

No. 2 wins was not enough for either side to win.

MegaBonus wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:15 pm ^^^^^^^

was it enough to win the series?????

was it enough to win the Ashes????

No and yes.

N5 1BH wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:15 pm The results are what they are and fair enough, no one can complain. Was a brilliant series, loved every second of it and yes some controversy and ifs/buts are all part of what made it great. It’s an old cliche but test cricket definitely the winner. Bring on the next one
Funny to note that England and Australia both been docked points for slow over rates when each completed test had a result, guess the answer is to bore everyone with 5 spinners on dirt, lose a few games but still get more points than a pace side. Now who would that benefit ?

Very good point here.
I think the 'over rates' are a bit of a joke when the Tests are still producing results.
If the games were ending in draws due to time wasting then dock points or issue sanctions but in this instance they didn't effect the games at all

when was the last time the Poms won the ashes....asking for a friend

Seaton Bush Pigs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:43 am

MegaBonus wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:15 pm ^^^^^^^

was it enough to win the series?????

was it enough to win the Ashes????

No and yes.

No and No

Michael wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:09 pm when was the last time the Poms won the ashes....asking for a friend

I don't believe you.

2015

When was the last time australia won the Ashes in England?

does anyone know if the below is correct? the below doesnt show the Test Championships.....thus add 1 more to Australia's tally (and to NZ)

MegaBonus wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 3:02 pm does anyone know if the below is correct? the below doesnt show the Test Championships.....thus add 1 more to Australia's tally (and to NZ)

England's is correct.

We hold 2 of them at the moment.

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:46 pm

Michael wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:09 pm when was the last time the Poms won the ashes....asking for a friend

I don't believe you.

2015

When was the last time australia won the Ashes in England?

I don't think it matters where its won

zzz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:00 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:46 pm

Michael wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:09 pm when was the last time the Poms won the ashes....asking for a friend

I don't believe you.

2015

When was the last time australia won the Ashes in England?

I don't think it matters where its won

I do. Australia can only win at home.

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:05 pm

zzz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:00 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:46 pm

Michael wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:09 pm when was the last time the Poms won the ashes....asking for a friend

I don't believe you.

2015

When was the last time australia won the Ashes in England?

I don't think it matters where its won

I do. Australia can only win at home.

And win well, best poms can do is draw

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:05 pm

zzz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:00 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:46 pm

Michael wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:09 pm when was the last time the Poms won the ashes....asking for a friend

I don't believe you.

2015

When was the last time australia won the Ashes in England?

I don't think it matters where its won

I do. Australia can only win at home.

And win well, best poms can do is draw

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:37 am

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:05 pm

zzz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:00 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:46 pm

Michael wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:09 pm when was the last time the Poms won the ashes....asking for a friend

I don't believe you.

2015

When was the last time australia won the Ashes in England?

I don't think it matters where its won

I do. Australia can only win at home.

And win well, best poms can do is draw

We have won more recently in australia than australia have won in England.

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:04 am

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:37 am

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:05 pm

zzz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:00 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:46 pm

Michael wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:09 pm when was the last time the Poms won the ashes....asking for a friend

I don't believe you.

2015

When was the last time australia won the Ashes in England?

I don't think it matters where its won

I do. Australia can only win at home.

And win well, best poms can do is draw

We have won more recently in australia than australia have won in England.

Matters not one whit. Lucky (for you) that they don't aggregate home and away like in football. You can at least claim home draws as some sort of "victory" at present, even though that still doesn't give you the trophy to play with.

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:45 am

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:04 am

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:37 am

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:05 pm

zzz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:00 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:46 pm


I don't believe you.

2015

When was the last time australia won the Ashes in England?

I don't think it matters where its won

I do. Australia can only win at home.

And win well, best poms can do is draw

We have won more recently in australia than australia have won in England.

Matters not one whit. Lucky (for you) that they don't aggregate home and away like in football. You can at least claim home draws as some sort of "victory" at present, even though that still doesn't give you the trophy to play with.

Draws are draws, not victories.

Of course it matters.

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:59 am

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:45 am

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:04 am

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:37 am

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:05 pm

zzz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:00 pm

I don't think it matters where its won

I do. Australia can only win at home.

And win well, best poms can do is draw

We have won more recently in australia than australia have won in England.

Matters not one whit. Lucky (for you) that they don't aggregate home and away like in football. You can at least claim home draws as some sort of "victory" at present, even though that still doesn't give you the trophy to play with.

Draws are draws, not victories.

Of course it matters.

Holding the trophy is what matters most. Our fingerprints are all over it.

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:31 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:59 am

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:45 am

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:04 am

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:37 am

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:05 pm


I do. Australia can only win at home.

And win well, best poms can do is draw

We have won more recently in australia than australia have won in England.

Matters not one whit. Lucky (for you) that they don't aggregate home and away like in football. You can at least claim home draws as some sort of "victory" at present, even though that still doesn't give you the trophy to play with.

Draws are draws, not victories.

Of course it matters.

Holding the trophy is what matters most. Our fingerprints are all over it.

So sad that a once proud sporting nation celebrates draws.

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:37 pm

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:31 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:59 am

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:45 am

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:04 am

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:37 am

And win well, best poms can do is draw

We have won more recently in australia than australia have won in England.

Matters not one whit. Lucky (for you) that they don't aggregate home and away like in football. You can at least claim home draws as some sort of "victory" at present, even though that still doesn't give you the trophy to play with.

Draws are draws, not victories.

Of course it matters.

Holding the trophy is what matters most. Our fingerprints are all over it.

So sad that a once proud sporting nation celebrates draws.

So why do you?

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:39 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:37 pm

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:31 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:59 am

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:45 am

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:04 am

We have won more recently in australia than australia have won in England.

Matters not one whit. Lucky (for you) that they don't aggregate home and away like in football. You can at least claim home draws as some sort of "victory" at present, even though that still doesn't give you the trophy to play with.

Draws are draws, not victories.

Of course it matters.

Holding the trophy is what matters most. Our fingerprints are all over it.

So sad that a once proud sporting nation celebrates draws.

So why do you?

We don't.

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:41 pm

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:39 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:37 pm

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:31 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:59 am

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:45 am

Matters not one whit. Lucky (for you) that they don't aggregate home and away like in football. You can at least claim home draws as some sort of "victory" at present, even though that still doesn't give you the trophy to play with.

Draws are draws, not victories.

Of course it matters.

Holding the trophy is what matters most. Our fingerprints are all over it.

So sad that a once proud sporting nation celebrates draws.

So why do you?

We don't.

How soon you forget the "moral victory" in the face of a drawn series. We take cup home and will just smack you at home as usual. Try and at least get within 3-0 this time.

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:45 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:41 pm

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:39 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:37 pm

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:31 pm

God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:59 am

Draws are draws, not victories.

Of course it matters.

Holding the trophy is what matters most. Our fingerprints are all over it.

So sad that a once proud sporting nation celebrates draws.

So why do you?

We don't.

How soon you forget the "moral victory" in the face of a drawn series. We take cup home and will just smack you at home as usual. Try and at least get within 3-0 this time.

This whole "moral victory" thing just shows how much grasping you lot are doing to try and show England up. It's funny.

As I said, celebrating a draw.

I couldn't care less if for the next 20 years we keep belting you at home a drawing away, whilst winning the odd test championship in between.

Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:46 pm I couldn't care less if for the next 20 years we keep belting you at home a drawing away, whilst winning the odd test championship in between.

So you'd continue celebrating draws. Maybe we just have higher standards than you.

if it means retaining the Ashes....then yes!!!!

MegaBonus wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:59 pm if it means retaining the Ashes....then yes!!!!

^^^^^^^^

please remind me what it is England (& Wales) and Australia play for when they compete in test matches.