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Winding players up
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:16 pm
by Der_Tiser
Is this legal? As long as you don't say anything racist, homophobic etc, are you allowed to call them cheats or whatever to wind them up so they hit you and get sent off?
Re: Winding players up
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:49 am
by Red-4-Life
Der_Tiser wrote:Is this legal? As long as you don't say anything racist, homophobic etc, are you allowed to call them cheats or whatever to wind them up so they hit you and get sent off?
no
Re: Winding players up
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:56 am
by Stitch This
Boundsy likes this.
Re: Winding players up
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:02 pm
by Der_Tiser
Red-4-Life wrote:Der_Tiser wrote:Is this legal? As long as you don't say anything racist, homophobic etc, are you allowed to call them cheats or whatever to wind them up so they hit you and get sent off?
no
why not? What law is it breaking?
Re: Winding players up
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:56 pm
by johnydep
Der_Tiser wrote:Is this legal? As long as you don't say anything racist, homophobic etc, are you allowed to call them cheats or whatever to wind them up so they hit you and get sent off?
Yes, if the referee deems your behaviour to be one of the following -
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/generic/81/42/36/lawsofthegame_2010_11_e.pdf wrote:Cautionable offences
A player is cautioned and shown the yellow card if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
• unsporting behaviour
• dissent by word or action
Sending-off offences
A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
• serious foul play
• violent conduct
• spitting at an opponent or any other person
• using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
Re: Winding players up
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:22 pm
by Der_Tiser
dissent is only towards the referee, it's not serious foul play, violent conduct or spitting
unsporting behaviour is extreme grey area
where is the line with offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures?
if any kind of this gets you red, not a single player in any of the amatuer leagues in SA would avoid getting sent off at least 5 times a season
Re: Winding players up
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:05 pm
by Alba gu brath
We had a player booked this week for swearing at his own player.
Re: Winding players up
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:13 pm
by Stitch This
Alba gu brath wrote:We had a player booked this week for swearing at his own player.
It was Vizzari.
I think it was for impersonating a footballer.
Re: Winding players up
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:38 pm
by ozzie owl
Der_Tiser wrote:Is this legal? As long as you don't say anything racist, homophobic etc, are you allowed to call them cheats or whatever to wind them up so they hit you and get sent off?
Red card.
Re: Winding players up
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:37 am
by paul merson
Alba gu brath wrote:We had a player booked this week for swearing at his own player.
They did try to enforce a couple of years ago that if you swore and it was able to be heard by a spectartor you would be booked, that rule was f k d for goal keepers!
Dave Alberton gives you a warning for swearing in general, never seen him actually book some one for it but he manages to stop it.
Re: Winding players up
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:31 am
by Drusetta
Der_Tiser wrote:dissent is only towards the referee, it's not serious foul play, violent conduct or spitting
unsporting behaviour is extreme grey area
where is the line with offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures?
if any kind of this gets you red, not a single player in any of the amatuer leagues in SA would avoid getting sent off at least 5 times a season
Didn't Eric Cantona get sent-off for "serious foul play" against a spectator?
Re: Winding players up
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:38 pm
by molmax
No he already had the red card before the attack on the suporter.
Re: Winding players up
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:02 am
by God is an Englishman
Der_Tiser wrote:dissent is only towards the referee, it's not serious foul play, violent conduct or spitting
unsporting behaviour is extreme grey area
where is the line with offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures?
if any kind of this gets you red, not a single player in any of the amatuer leagues in SA would avoid getting sent off at least 5 times a season
it's grey for a reason, it's all emcompassing. This is a prime example of unsporting behaviour and a clear yellow card.
As for swearing, technically any fould language is a red card. However, most refs will accept it as part of football and allow it or at worse give a caution.