Why Would Anyone Want The England Job?

[LFTWNG11]

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I wouldn't read the papers this Thursday morning if I were you. I have, but I sort of have to for my job. The barely disguised glee, the combination of 'We told you so' and 'He should've gone ages ago', the smugness at having finally got their way is utterly sickening.

And why? Because much of the press believed Capello to be a bumbling incompetent. Which, objectively, he wasn't. Of course, the performances against Algeria and Germany at the World Cup were desperately poor, but what of the two near-flawless qualification campaigns? Balance those things out, and at worst you have a 'decent' tenure.

If anyone believes Capello resigned purely over the John Terry business, they are surely kidding themselves. This was a culmination of a couple of years of abuse, of being called a 'clown' and a 'donkey' (c. Shaun Custis and The Sun, August 2010), and of calamitous management by the FA. Capello thought 'f*ck this for a game of soldiers' and decided this was more trouble than it's worth. And to be worth more than £6million a year, that's an awful lot of trouble.

The primary problem is that the press, if one is to lump them into one fevered single hive-mind consciousness, are never satisfied with the England manager. Every boss in my lifetime has, at one point or another, been ridiculed beyond decency (and, in the interests of full disclosure, F365 isn't blameless in this department). Even Bobby Robson, the most successful manager since 1966, was basically hounded out of the job. Hounded out of the country, even.

And, as the predictably sensible and correct Matt Dickinson wrote in The Times, the cycle will now begin. Having decided they didn't like The Old Man, it was decided there must be a change, and The New Man will obviously be much, much better. The New Man, presumably Harry Redknapp, will be feted and greeted as a saviour, more so this time because most on Fleet Street back him anyway and everyone has decided that he will certainly be successful, with not a great deal of logic to back it up. The support of the press might be a good thing, because at least he will have some goodwill stored up, delaying the inevitable backlash when England don't spank Spain 5-0 in the Euro 2012 final.

This job breaks people in a way that few others do. Capello is the most decorated club manager of his generation, and he arrives in the England job, doesn't win the World Cup and the press think he is the problem? When Capello was appointed, I welcomed it, but with the caveat that if even he can't succeed/win something with England, we're in some trouble.

Of course, Capello was far from perfect. As most have said, his grasp of the English language was disappointing after four years, his reluctance to make even the simplest phone call without talking through Franco Baldini was frustrating, the late call to Paul Scholes was laughable and depending on your point of view, his stubbornness was either a weakness or a virtue.

However, these flaws were magnified and blown out of all sensible proportion by the press.

So, with all this in mind, why the hell would anyone take this job? Sure, if Capello's contract is anything to go by, they will be handsomely remunerated, but there are easier ways to earn money. And, as we've been hearing in the last couple of weeks, the anointed one doesn't care much for coin anyway.

If we are to assume it's Redknapp, why would he leave Spurs? I certainly wouldn't. To leave a club he has turned around, are playing the best football in the Premier League, with a young team, where he is largely loved by fans and club alike and will almost certainly be in the Champions League next season, for England? He'd either have to be the most committed patriot this country has ever seen or completely off his rocker.

This job is more trouble than it's worth. Don't do it Harry. Or anyone, really. For your own sake.

[Bomber]

I'd say its because its one of the highest paying, if not THE highest paying national job going around.

[Blotto]

Arry's a complete twat if he takes this.... He's cracked the top 3 and with a few more purchases (and holding onto what he's got) he's got a chance of cracking the current Manc dominance of the EPL....

He's on the verge of something great at Spurs and Champions League football next season. Why throw that away to take a job where you're gunna get roasted no matter what you do?

Lets be honest, there is NO way England will win the Euro's (having to get past Germany, Spain and others) or the WC (add the Argies & Brazil to the other list) anytime soon...

[Derek]

Yeah, what a total idiot. An Englishman wanting to manage his home country........

[BTAC]

Hope Redknapp takes the job. Would be class to see that mug crash and burn with England.

[Derek]

Hope Redknapp takes the job. Would be class to see that mug crash and burn with England.

[Facts and Stats]

The post about Harry being successful is what is wrong in today's world.

3rd is failure.

Second choice Steve is more successful at club level.

[Nice One Cyril]

Arry's a complete twat if he takes this.... He's cracked the top 3 and with a few more purchases (and holding onto what he's got) he's got a chance of cracking the current Manc dominance of the EPL....

He's on the verge of something great at Spurs and Champions League football next season. Why throw that away to take a job where you're gunna get roasted no matter what you do?

Lets be honest, there is NO way England will win the Euro's (having to get past Germany, Spain and others) or the WC (add the Argies & Brazil to the other list) anytime soon...

You're right of course, realistically England have next to no chance of winning anything, anytime soon, BUT imagine what a hero he'd be if the unthinkable happened and he did win something. His name would be sung from the rooftops and he'd probably be knighted.

Worth the risk? It's an offer he'll probably only get once so, although I'd rather he stayed at Spurs, I think he'll take it and hope for a miracle.

He can hardly do worse than the last few we've had.

[Old Master]

I would love it if HR took the job because he is clearly the best possible man for the job but I hope for his sake he doesn't take it.

He has the chance to take the mighty Spurs back to the very summit of English football and assemble a team of his choice that will rival that of the Danny Blanchflower and Jimmy Greaves, etc eras.
He would be idolised by millions of football fans around the world for bringing back football as it should be played back to England.

With the England job he will get abuse, ridicule, unjust criticism, downright hatred and be subjected to the continual questioning of every decision he makes by people who are simply trying to make a name for themselves at his expense. He would also have to put up with bosses who know nothing about football and are complete idiots to boot and face no responsibility for their decisions. He would have only English players to select from, few of whom would be able to play the kind of football he desires due to the amateurish standard of coaching available to them during their development.

Which job would you take? :?

[Mato]

Yeah, what a total idiot. An Englishman wanting to manage his home country........

Did you even read the article?

[Derek]

Yep, just another article with another opinion....

[Chelsea4thewin]

Arry's a complete twat if he takes this.... He's cracked the top 3 and with a few more purchases (and holding onto what he's got) he's got a chance of cracking the current Manc dominance of the EPL.....

this is the first year of this 'dominance'

[Nice One Cyril]

Arry's a complete twat if he takes this.... He's cracked the top 3 and with a few more purchases (and holding onto what he's got) he's got a chance of cracking the current Manc dominance of the EPL.....

this is the first year of this 'dominance'

This is the first year that City have joined in, but you'd have to admit that United have dominated the Premiership years pretty much all on their own.

[Jimbob]

I would love it if HR took the job because he is clearly the best possible man for the job but I hope for his sake he doesn't take it.

He has the chance to take the mighty Spurs back to the very summit of English football and assemble a team of his choice that will rival that of the Danny Blanchflower and Jimmy Greaves, etc eras.
He would be idolised by millions of football fans around the world for bringing back football as it should be played back to England.

With the England job he will get abuse, ridicule, unjust criticism, downright hatred and be subjected to the continual questioning of every decision he makes by people who are simply trying to make a name for themselves at his expense. He would also have to put up with bosses who know nothing about football and are complete idiots to boot and face no responsibility for their decisions. He would have only English players to select from, few of whom would be able to play the kind of football he desires due to the amateurish standard of coaching available to them during their development.

Which job would you take? :?

As much a I like Spurs under Redknapp do you really think they're gonna get any better than what they are now? Every year, there will be speculation about the best players leaving (Modric, Bale etc) and they will always struggle to keep them. Until Spurs start paying the same wages as United, City and Chelsea for their best players they are always going to be also rans. This year however they are in with a chance of winning the league. If arry leaves this could also hasten the departure of their prized assets.

[Nice One Cyril]

I would love it if HR took the job because he is clearly the best possible man for the job but I hope for his sake he doesn't take it.

He has the chance to take the mighty Spurs back to the very summit of English football and assemble a team of his choice that will rival that of the Danny Blanchflower and Jimmy Greaves, etc eras.
He would be idolised by millions of football fans around the world for bringing back football as it should be played back to England.

With the England job he will get abuse, ridicule, unjust criticism, downright hatred and be subjected to the continual questioning of every decision he makes by people who are simply trying to make a name for themselves at his expense. He would also have to put up with bosses who know nothing about football and are complete idiots to boot and face no responsibility for their decisions. He would have only English players to select from, few of whom would be able to play the kind of football he desires due to the amateurish standard of coaching available to them during their development.

Which job would you take? :?

As much a I like Spurs under Redknapp do you really think they're gonna get any better than what they are now? Every year, there will be speculation about the best players leaving (Modric, Bale etc) and they will always struggle to keep them. Until Spurs start paying the same wages as United, City and Chelsea for their best players they are always going to be also rans. This year however they are in with a chance of winning the league. If arry leaves this could also hasten the departure of their prized assets.

That's very true but if the FFP initiative comes in, City and Chelsea will struggle to pay ridiculous wages. United and Liverpool might still be able to get away with it, given their larger turnover.

[Litmanen]

I would love it if HR took the job because he is clearly the best possible man for the job but I hope for his sake he doesn't take it.

He has the chance to take the mighty Spurs back to the very summit of English football and assemble a team of his choice that will rival that of the Danny Blanchflower and Jimmy Greaves, etc eras.
He would be idolised by millions of football fans around the world for bringing back football as it should be played back to England.

With the England job he will get abuse, ridicule, unjust criticism, downright hatred and be subjected to the continual questioning of every decision he makes by people who are simply trying to make a name for themselves at his expense. He would also have to put up with bosses who know nothing about football and are complete idiots to boot and face no responsibility for their decisions. He would have only English players to select from, few of whom would be able to play the kind of football he desires due to the amateurish standard of coaching available to them during their development.

Which job would you take? :?

As much a I like Spurs under Redknapp do you really think they're gonna get any better than what they are now? Every year, there will be speculation about the best players leaving (Modric, Bale etc) and they will always struggle to keep them. Until Spurs start paying the same wages as United, City and Chelsea for their best players they are always going to be also rans. This year however they are in with a chance of winning the league. If arry leaves this could also hasten the departure of their prized assets.

That's very true but if the FFP initiative comes in, City and Chelsea will struggle to pay ridiculous wages. United and Liverpool might still be able to get away with it, given their larger turnover.

In Chelsea's case it looks like they'll actually be ok.

http://andersred.blogspot.com.au/2012/0 ... ng-in.html

The other thing to note is that we don't actually have to meet the requirements for the first few years, we simply have to show positive growth.

[God is an Englishman]

Yeah, what a total idiot. An Englishman wanting to manage his home country........

Did you even read the article?

I did and I can think of 6 million reasons (a year) that anyone would want the job, especially an Englishman.

[sephiroth]

So why isn't Guardiola or Mourinho a better candidate for the job than Redknapp?

[God is an Englishman]

So why isn't Guardiola or Mourinho a better candidate for the job than Redknapp?

who is that aimed at and why?

Mourinho would understand the English way, gladioli - who? this is the England job you know, not amateur reserves.

[ronaldo07]

Arry's a complete twat if he takes this.... He's cracked the top 3 and with a few more purchases (and holding onto what he's got) he's got a chance of cracking the current Manc dominance of the EPL....

He's on the verge of something great at Spurs and Champions League football next season. Why throw that away to take a job where you're gunna get roasted no matter what you do?

Lets be honest, there is NO way England will win the Euro's (having to get past Germany, Spain and others) or the WC (add the Argies & Brazil to the other list) anytime soon...

U gotta be kidding ..
I mean the chance for England to win the world cup / euro is definitely higher than Spurs to win the Premier league
Premier league is a long season competition where u have to play 38 matches to decide the title winner ..
whereas u can do a miracle (base on the form ) and win the euro or world cup .. hint* Greece !!

[BTAC]

I mean the chance for England to win the world cup / euro is definitely higher than Spurs to win the Premier league

[ozzie owl]

The FA has a number of paths in which to take with the coach.

1. Pick a coach at short notice for the Euros' only and give them more time for them to find the right person for the long term. The idea candidate with Guus Hiddink. He has proven record in international tournaments and perfect for short term roll.

2. Pick an English coach from the EPL, very limited options, namely Rednapp, Pardew and Hodgson. From this short list only one real choice Rednapp.

3. Pick the best available to work with the next generation of players, best choices here are Wenger and Mourinho. Wenger has a proven record with developing technically proficient youngsters. If you brought Wenger on board I would broaden his role to work with the under 21's and below. While Mourinho has a proven record of success in the biggest club leagues in the world and would be perfect to handle the ego's in the English dressing room.

[God is an Englishman]

The FA has a number of paths in which to take with the coach.

1. Pick a coach at short notice for the Euros' only and give them more time for them to find the right person for the long term. The idea candidate with Guus Hiddink. He has proven record in international tournaments and perfect for short term roll.

2. Pick an English coach from the EPL, very limited options, namely Rednapp, Pardew and Hodgson. From this short list only one real choice Rednapp.

3. Pick the best available to work with the next generation of players, best choices here are Wenger and Mourinho. Wenger has a proven record with developing technically proficient youngsters. If you brought Wenger on board I would broaden his role to work with the under 21's and below. While Mourinho has a proven record of success in the biggest club leagues in the world and would be perfect to handle the ego's in the English dressing room.

1. Don't rate Hiidink at all.
2. only one choice there
3. How often do you think wenger is going to get to work on bringing these kids through. This isn't club football, he doesn't get to work with them on a daily basis. Oh and a frog leading the English side, NO bottle of shiraz WAY! Mourinho - understands the English game and has respect of players.

[BTAC]

1. Don't rate Hiidink at all.

Well that's him out of the running then.

[ozzie owl]

If given choice Mourinho over Rednapp any day.

[God is an Englishman]

1. Don't rate Hiidink at all.

Well that's him out of the running then.

Hope so!

[justmyopinion]

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[MegaBonus]

ozzie owl



3. Pick the best available to work with the next generation of players, best choices here are Wenger and Mourinho. Wenger has a proven record with developing technically proficient youngsters.

righ there.......thats the problem.......'technically proficient English players'......an oxymoron if ever ive heard one!!!!!

[Litmanen]

Give Brendan rogers the gig IMO. He knows how to get average players playing well.

[the fink]

craig foster, he will have them playing like barcelona in no time