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United We Stand wrote:

johndedes wrote:Bravo we are debating.
That means your thinking about my points.
I said and am questioning this point being footy fans hardcore do not go to soccer matches winter or summer. There is no challenge to the world game eg HAL league if it went back to winter.
But soccer fans hardcore go watch afl eg me and many others.
If I had to choose eg footy over soccer if both were played in winter I would follow or go to soccer and listen to footy results on my iPhone as in the old days you listened to footy on the radio while at a soccer match.
I said 30,000 at the victory was poor and should have been say 50,000 plus because you tell me what other major sporting event was on in Melbourne that day or night??? Zip is the answer, melbourne being the sporting Mecca in ozz should have had more people or sports people at that match. For 3 million plus population it was a poor result. That is my point.
I have stated that HAL league should revert to winter to help and support the local leagues and players around Australia at present the are not working well in conjunction not good for the game.
Like I said footy people never go to soccer matches but soccer people go watch afl in winter because they Have no choice to make.

"Bravo we are debating?" It is a pity that YOU have an inability to think or debate. You again completely ignored the question that I have posed to you TWICE and ignored my comment about the FFA Cup filling the role of connecting the local leagues with the HAL.

Logically, if many football (soccer) fans in Melbourne go to AFL like you say, wouldn't HAL attendances in winter be lower? Are you saying that they would go to both AFL and the HAL in winter? Having the HAL in spring/summer means that some of those AFL fans that do not go to the soccer during winter could be attracted as new followers of the HAL.

Your argument (like yourself JD!!) lacks credibility as the NSL in winter did not have anywhere near the attendances of the present day HAL. I know that the HAL is trying(and succeeding) in positioning our great game in the mainstream sporting landscape. I know that it is different to the NSL which was mainly comprised of ethnic community sponsored clubs. However, the result would definitely be the same if the present HAL reverted to winter. The attendances would be lower AND have less chance of progressively growing. Brisbane clubs in the NSL (Brisbane Strikers Grand Final vs Sydney United excepted) were absolute basket cases with regular 1000-1500 crowds (Sometimes less than 1000!!). Look at today's opening game of attendance of 16,000 plus and ask yourself, if the Roar could get that crowd in rugby mad Brisbane in winter.

Just because you would choose to go to the soccer and listen to the AFL results on the radio doesn't mean that everybody does the same. Several of my mates are die hard AFL fans, who now attend Adelaide United matches after I treated them to a game in summer. They are now fanatics of the Reds, but they admit that they wouldn't go to United in preference to the Power or the Crows if they were both played in winter.

Hasn't the growing success of the HAL convinced you of this or are you just stirring to get a reaction?

johndedes wrote:I said a choice needs to be made if say HAL was in winter for soccer fans that go to afl in winter.
There is no choice for afl fans they never go to HAL matches winter or summer statistics already show this.
Ok then should local leagues go summer to properly align the game top down?

johndedes wrote:Please, do not twist the debate, we are on the same page, I would like to see a very successful HAL League and local leagues.
However there is a local league dilemma and Junior Fees are becoming unsustainable because of this.
Recently I talked to some parents who rang me up for some advice.
I said to them you have no choice pay the fees for your child to play FFSA Junior Under 10's soccer in Adelaide, and to my amazement the asking fee was well over $600 per annum.
It was my FREE in my era eg 1970's.

In this debate I have stated that playing HAl in Summer does not equate to increased crowds from AFL. Because AFL people in general do not go to the so called "Wog Ball" game. Now this sounds questionable the tag I heard recently from a person. But this is fact that is what our World Game is still called in Ozz.

OK the crowds for the opening of the HAL were reported as good but they should be better iof the game is to attract "Sports People" to watch.
Sports People are lovers of sport. But sadly I do not see this in Ozz there is a market that is just AFL, not AFL and HAL spectators.

So as I have debated in trying to gel the HAL and local Leagues in one season is the big dilemma in the game to move forward. Either both in winter or both in summer or???
Because the game at grass roots is becoming unsustainable in fees and crowd numbers at local games are non existent.

Insider Trading wrote:Dedes won't attend a HAL match until hindmarsh offers free wi-fi. Why can't AU see this?

johndedes wrote:What is the price of coopers @ Coopers?

blue bags wrote:

johndedes wrote:What is the price of coopers @ Coopers?

I think you have got football all wrong John

blue bags wrote:

johndedes wrote:What is the price of coopers @ Coopers?

I think you have got football all wrong John

johndedes wrote:Shoot goal

Give up start again budget club

johndedes wrote:Shoot goal

Give up start again budget club

El Paso del Norte wrote:Can't believe anyone would seriously consider joining the a league.

johndedes wrote:

El Paso del Norte wrote:Can't believe anyone would seriously consider joining the a league.

Shoot goal

A league in my books not a true a league without smh in it.