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Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:36 pm
by God is an Englishman
Cooper wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:50 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:18 pm
Cooper wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:36 am
Have they found out what was actually said?
The claims are that they were calling him Shiraz. (That is not the swear fliter).
If thats the case its mild but i get they have to protect the players from all forms of abuse. I agree with the actions of the stadium and police in this matter.
Mild racism is still racism though.
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:36 pm
by God is an Englishman
Paine acting like a muppet again.
Funny to see him act like that and then almost immediately drop a catch.
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:44 pm
by ozzie owl
If the ICC is serious about player behaviour time to introduce suspensions and Paine should be the first . Fining players a match payment are waste of time given how much they earn .
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:29 pm
by MegaBonus
^^^^^^^^^^^^
not necessarily.....by attempting to win, theres a higher chance of losing....
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:46 pm
by God is an Englishman
Smith on camera as well trying to remove Pant's guard.
Not sure if that breaks any laws but certainly not within the spirit of the game.
https://twitter.com/virendersehwag/stat ... 50850?s=19
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:38 am
by Bomber
Lyon - overrated
Paine - needs a (permanent) rest anyway - Carey should be keeper, not sure about captaincy, but changes needed, including Wade out, Head back in.
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:56 am
by Cooper
Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:38 am
Lyon - overrated
Paine - needs a (permanent) rest anyway - Carey should be keeper, not sure about captaincy, but changes needed, including Wade out, Head back in.
Id say Wade will be done, dont see him playing much if ever again for Australia
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:14 am
by ozzie owl
Cooper wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:56 am
Bomber wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:38 am
Lyon - overrated
Paine - needs a (permanent) rest anyway - Carey should be keeper, not sure about captaincy, but changes needed, including Wade out, Head back in.
Id say Wade will be done, dont see him playing much if ever again for Australia
Despite his run of low scores the injury to Pucovski may save him. If Pucovski is out then I would bring Harris as opener and replace Wade with Travis Head.
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:16 am
by N5 1BH
It’s the aussie kiddies I feel sorry for, all they want is a hero to be able to look up to but little smithy keeps on letting them down. Look once Langer, a man of his word, has condemned this appalling behaviour and taken the necessary action maybe we can all move on, ban him till at least Feb 2022 would be fair I reckon.
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:46 am
by God is an Englishman
N5 1BH wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:16 am
It’s the aussie kiddies I feel sorry for, all they want is a hero to be able to look up to but little smithy keeps on letting them down. Look once Langer, a man of his word, has condemned this appalling behaviour and taken the necessary action maybe we can all move on, ban him till at least Feb 2022 would be fair I reckon.
Langer is a hypocritical gnome
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:12 am
by Cooper
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:36 pm
Cooper wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:50 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:18 pm
Cooper wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:36 am
Have they found out what was actually said?
The claims are that they were calling him Shiraz. (That is not the swear fliter).
If thats the case its mild but i get they have to protect the players from all forms of abuse. I agree with the actions of the stadium and police in this matter.
Mild racism is still racism though.
Still havent actually heard what was said though. Just a video with some speculation of words in the background
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:35 pm
by MegaBonus
Post by God is an Englishman » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:16 am
Langer is a hypocritical gnome
nahhhh...i reckon you are....given you choose what to share on here based on your Facebook comments....
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:38 pm
by God is an Englishman
MegaBonus wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:35 pm
Post by God is an Englishman » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:16 am
Langer is a hypocritical gnome
nahhhh...i reckon you are....given you choose what to share on here based on your Facebook comments....
What are you on about?
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:06 am
by N5 1BH
Yep sadly was confirmed yesterday, hypocritical gnome
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:16 am
by Bomber
When it comes to racism, the worst I ever heard was Adelaide Oval (the hill) in the 70's and 80's whenever West Indies were playing. No wonder they bowled so devastatingly fast. Today, the entire hill would have been ejected
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:50 am
by Just Dave now
The batsman can simply take guard again if not happy , storm in a teacup
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:05 am
by MegaBonus
^^^^^^^^^^^^
a little like the Indian team replacing an 'injured' keeper with a better gloveman but when it was time to bat in the 2nd innings, the 'injured' keeper who is the better batsman was OK to bat.....
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:59 pm
by God is an Englishman
MegaBonus wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:05 am
^^^^^^^^^^^^
a little like the Indian team replacing an 'injured' keeper with a better gloveman but when it was time to bat in the 2nd innings, the 'injured' keeper who is the better batsman was OK to bat.....
Which is completely within the laws.
No different to Smith pretending to be confused after injuring his hand.
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:00 pm
by God is an Englishman
Dave now from No 9 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:50 am
The batsman can simply take guard again if not happy , storm in a teacup
It breaks a law of the game. Cheat.
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:09 pm
by Cooper
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:00 pm
Dave now from No 9 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:50 am
The batsman can simply take guard again if not happy , storm in a teacup
It breaks a law of the game. Cheat.
Interesting to see what law is broken by doing this?
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:58 pm
by God is an Englishman
Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:09 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:00 pm
Dave now from No 9 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:50 am
The batsman can simply take guard again if not happy , storm in a teacup
It breaks a law of the game. Cheat.
Interesting to see what law is broken by doing this?
41.12.1 - Fielder damaging the pitch
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:17 pm
by Delete Your Account
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:58 pm
Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:09 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:00 pm
Dave now from No 9 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:50 am
The batsman can simply take guard again if not happy , storm in a teacup
It breaks a law of the game. Cheat.
Interesting to see what law is broken by doing this?
41.12.1 - Fielder damaging the pitch
WRONG
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:08 pm
by God is an Englishman
Look up the law, it's there in black and white.
Only the aussies can defend this, he's bang to rights.
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:41 am
by Delete Your Account
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:08 pm
Look up the law, it's there in black and white.
Only the aussies can defend this, he's bang to rights.
Law 41.12.1 <truncated>
A fielder will be deemed to be causing avoidable damage if either umpire considers that his/her presence on the pitch is without reasonable cause.
Did either umpire consider his presence on the pitch to be problematic? All we've heard is trial by social media.
If they did, did we see Law 41.12.2 occur?
41.12.2 If a fielder causes avoidable damage to the pitch, other than as in 41.13.1, at the first instance the umpire seeing the contravention shall, when the ball is dead, inform the other umpire. The bowler’s end umpire shall then
- caution the captain of the fielding side and indicate that this is a first and final warning. This warning shall apply throughout the innings.
- inform the batsmen of what has occurred.
It would appear to me that they didn't warn the Aussies nor inform the batsmen, and as such, no Law was infringed.
This is ignoring that the "protected zone" excludes the popping crease anyway.
Edit: Was it reported to the Governing Body? Because, again, the reason it's being talked about it because of the vision from social media. If it was in the match report, the media would have picked it up sooner.
41.2.1.3 The umpires together shall report the incident as soon as possible after the match to the Executive of the offending side and to any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered appropriate against the captain, any other individuals concerned and, if appropriate, the team.
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:43 am
by Bomber
To me, it wasn't a good look but was intrigued when people were saying he did this a lot in the past. So why the hoo-ha now?
Bottom line, Smith will always be scarred from the sandpaper incident, so this looks little more than a misdemeanor if anything, but will be noted on his rap sheet.
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:52 am
by God is an Englishman
Delete Your Account wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:41 am
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:08 pm
Look up the law, it's there in black and white.
Only the aussies can defend this, he's bang to rights.
Law 41.12.1 <truncated>
A fielder will be deemed to be causing avoidable damage if either umpire considers that his/her presence on the pitch is without reasonable cause.
Did either umpire consider his presence on the pitch to be problematic? All we've heard is trial by social media.
If they did, did we see Law 41.12.2 occur?
41.12.2 If a fielder causes avoidable damage to the pitch, other than as in 41.13.1, at the first instance the umpire seeing the contravention shall, when the ball is dead, inform the other umpire. The bowler’s end umpire shall then
- caution the captain of the fielding side and indicate that this is a first and final warning. This warning shall apply throughout the innings.
- inform the batsmen of what has occurred.
It would appear to me that they didn't warn the Aussies nor inform the batsmen, and as such, no Law was infringed.
This is ignoring that the "protected zone" excludes the popping crease anyway.
Edit: Was it reported to the Governing Body? Because, again, the reason it's being talked about it because of the vision from social media. If it was in the match report, the media would have picked it up sooner.
41.2.1.3 The umpires together shall report the incident as soon as possible after the match to the Executive of the offending side and to any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered appropriate against the captain, any other individuals concerned and, if appropriate, the team.
This part of the law is not linked to the "protected area".
It was during a drinks break, did the umpires even see it. We don't know if the aussiie umpires noticed it or reported it?
Laws are broken even if the umpires don't see it or punish it.
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:03 am
by Delete Your Account
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:52 am
Delete Your Account wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:41 am
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:08 pm
Look up the law, it's there in black and white.
Only the aussies can defend this, he's bang to rights.
Law 41.12.1 <truncated>
A fielder will be deemed to be causing avoidable damage if either umpire considers that his/her presence on the pitch is without reasonable cause.
Did either umpire consider his presence on the pitch to be problematic? All we've heard is trial by social media.
If they did, did we see Law 41.12.2 occur?
41.12.2 If a fielder causes avoidable damage to the pitch, other than as in 41.13.1, at the first instance the umpire seeing the contravention shall, when the ball is dead, inform the other umpire. The bowler’s end umpire shall then
- caution the captain of the fielding side and indicate that this is a first and final warning. This warning shall apply throughout the innings.
- inform the batsmen of what has occurred.
It would appear to me that they didn't warn the Aussies nor inform the batsmen, and as such, no Law was infringed.
This is ignoring that the "protected zone" excludes the popping crease anyway.
Edit: Was it reported to the Governing Body? Because, again, the reason it's being talked about it because of the vision from social media. If it was in the match report, the media would have picked it up sooner.
41.2.1.3 The umpires together shall report the incident as soon as possible after the match to the Executive of the offending side and to any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered appropriate against the captain, any other individuals concerned and, if appropriate, the team.
This part of the law is not linked to the "protected area".
It was during a drinks break, did the umpires even see it. We don't know if the aussiie umpires noticed it or reported it?
Laws are broken even if the umpires don't see it or punish it.
If the Law requires a judgement by an umpire, and an umpire doesn't make a judgement, then the Law isn't broken.
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:02 am
by God is an Englishman
Hahahaha
So you're only cheating if you get caught?
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:45 pm
by ozzie owl
Wade: Normal servcie resumed
Re: Aus v India - test series
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:07 pm
by Delete Your Account
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:02 am
Hahahaha
So you're only cheating if you get caught?
Is Sharma cheating here?
