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Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:11 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Would depend on other games


Snapshot.

Played 2, won 1, lost 1, for 8 against 1 vs
Played 2, won 1, lost 1, for 1 against 8

Who's higher?

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:15 pm
by Michael
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Would depend on other games


Snapshot.

Played 2, won 1, lost 1, for 8 against 1 vs
Played 2, won 1, lost 1, for 1 against 8

Who's higher?



Why bother, Eddie?

Matthew is just stirring considering NZ tied with England in the 2019 World cup

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:42 pm
by God is an Englishman
Michael wrote:
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Would depend on other games


Snapshot.

Played 2, won 1, lost 1, for 8 against 1 vs
Played 2, won 1, lost 1, for 1 against 8

Who's higher?



Why bother, Eddie?

Matthew is just stirring considering NZ tied with England in the 2019 World cup


And England won the world cup.

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:44 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Would depend on other games


Snapshot.

Played 2, won 1, lost 1, for 8 against 1 vs
Played 2, won 1, lost 1, for 1 against 8

Who's higher?



Team 1

Who wrote that fixture list?

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:27 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Would depend on other games


Snapshot.

Played 2, won 1, lost 1, for 8 against 1 vs
Played 2, won 1, lost 1, for 1 against 8

Who's higher?



Team 1

Who wrote that fixture list?


1. Thanks, QED
2. Probably the FFSA or AFL

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:27 pm
by Cooper
Cooper wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Would depend on other games


Are you saying a better team can only be chosen after looking at all games they have ever played together?

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:35 pm
by God is an Englishman
Cooper wrote:
Cooper wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Would depend on other games


Are you saying a better team can only be chosen after looking at all games they have ever played together?


No, but I am saying that you can't base it on one individual game. Especially when it was 1-1 in the last 2 weeks.

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:38 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
1. Thanks, QED
2. Probably the FFSA or AFL


And what happens if the week after team 1 lose a to team 3 10-0 and team 2 beats team 4 10-0?

A League table doesn't decide the best team until all fixtures have been played.

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:22 pm
by Inoue Waka
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
1. Thanks, QED
2. Probably the FFSA or AFL


And what happens if the week after team 1 lose a to team 3 10-0 and team 2 beats team 4 10-0?

A League table doesn't decide the best team until all fixtures have been played.


I think this year's EPL is going to decide the best team well before all the fixtures have been played.

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:57 am
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
1. Thanks, QED
2. Probably the FFSA or AFL


And what happens if the week after team 1 lose a to team 3 10-0 and team 2 beats team 4 10-0?

A League table doesn't decide the best team until all fixtures have been played.


You know how WC's work, groups, then finals etc etc, don't you?

Apart from the last men's ODI world cup, when was the last time someone was "lucky" or "not the best team" to win one?

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:16 am
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
1. Thanks, QED
2. Probably the FFSA or AFL


And what happens if the week after team 1 lose a to team 3 10-0 and team 2 beats team 4 10-0?

A League table doesn't decide the best team until all fixtures have been played.


You know how WC's work, groups, then finals etc etc, don't you?

Apart from the last men's ODI world cup, when was the last time someone was "lucky" or "not the best team" to win one?



So, India topped their group, are you saying they are better.

The last women's world cup.

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:42 am
by Cooper
God is an Englishman wrote:
Cooper wrote:
Cooper wrote:
Are you saying a better team can only be chosen after looking at all games they have ever played together?


No, but I am saying that you can't base it on one individual game. Especially when it was 1-1 in the last 2 weeks.


How many games need to be played in your opinion to determine who is better?

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:11 am
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
The last women's world cup.


:lol:

Ranked 1, and won 5 cups. Yeah, they're SO lucky. :lol:

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:48 am
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
The last women's world cup.


:lol:

Ranked 1, and won 5 cups. Yeah, they're SO lucky. :lol:



Well they were, D/L in a game that had it not got over the line they were out, and didn't have to play England because of the weather.

Almost the definition of luck.

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:39 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
The last women's world cup.


:lol:

Ranked 1, and won 5 cups. Yeah, they're SO lucky. :lol:



Well they were, D/L in a game that had it not got over the line they were out, and didn't have to play England because of the weather.

Almost the definition of luck.


If you want to use luck as any guide, look at the men's last ODI World Cup final.

Or does the "won under the rules of the comp" (ref D/L) not matter now?

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:55 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
If you want to use luck as any guide, look at the men's last ODI World Cup final.

Or does the "won under the rules of the comp" (ref D/L) not matter now?


It didn't seem to matter to all the aussies who are still crying about us winning.

Australia won under the competition rules, that's a fact. Them being the best team in the tournament isn't. They were lucky, all teams need some luck to win any major tournament.

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:21 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
If you want to use luck as any guide, look at the men's last ODI World Cup final.

Or does the "won under the rules of the comp" (ref D/L) not matter now?


It didn't seem to matter to all the aussies who are still crying about us winning.

Australia won under the competition rules, that's a fact. Them being the best team in the tournament isn't. They were lucky, all teams need some luck to win any major tournament.


No-one cried, unlike you on this thread, they just felt for the Kiwis who were unlucky. :)

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:32 pm
by God is an Englishman
No one cried? Hahahahaha.


Who is crying on here now?

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:24 pm
by Inoue Waka
God is an Englishman wrote:Who wrote that fixture list?


It's happened before. Yugoslavia/Israel qualifying group, 1950 World cup

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_FIFA ... on#Group_3

Quite a few of the qualifying groups had similar fixture lists.

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:34 pm
by Frank Costanza
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
If you want to use luck as any guide, look at the men's last ODI World Cup final.

Or does the "won under the rules of the comp" (ref D/L) not matter now?


It didn't seem to matter to all the aussies who are still crying about us winning.

Australia won under the competition rules, that's a fact. Them being the best team in the tournament isn't. They were lucky, all teams need some luck to win any major tournament.

Exactly right - just like how England won the last men's ODI World Cup even though they weren't the best team in the tournament.
They got lucky and rode their luck to win the tournament

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:26 pm
by God is an Englishman
Frank Costanza wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:
If you want to use luck as any guide, look at the men's last ODI World Cup final.

Or does the "won under the rules of the comp" (ref D/L) not matter now?


It didn't seem to matter to all the aussies who are still crying about us winning.

Australia won under the competition rules, that's a fact. Them being the best team in the tournament isn't. They were lucky, all teams need some luck to win any major tournament.

Exactly right - just like how England won the last men's ODI World Cup even though they weren't the best team in the tournament.
They got lucky and rode their luck to win the tournament


Why would you say that England weren't the best team?

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:21 pm
by Frank Costanza
They finished 3rd after the group stage.
They were 1-1 v Australia in the tournament.
Lost to Sri Lanka and Pakistan who were both poor in the tournament.
Tied NZ in the final and only won on an obscure countback rule.
India were probably the best team in the tournament until the semi final when they choked.

You said yourself teams have to ride their luck and England certainly did - the extra runs they got in the final when the ball veered off Stokes’ bat and into the boundary (plus the extra run they got on that play when it should have only been 5 runs) is testament to that luck.

I’m not denying they’re the current world champions but your logic that Australia weren’t the best team at the women’s t20 World Cup can be applied to England as well.

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:40 pm
by God is an Englishman
Frank Costanza wrote:They finished 3rd after the group stage.
They were 1-1 v Australia in the tournament.
Lost to Sri Lanka and Pakistan who were both poor in the tournament.
Tied NZ in the final and only won on an obscure countback rule.
India were probably the best team in the tournament until the semi final when they choked.

You said yourself teams have to ride their luck and England certainly did - the extra runs they got in the final when the ball veered off Stokes’ bat and into the boundary (plus the extra run they got on that play when it should have only been 5 runs) is testament to that luck.

I’m not denying they’re the current world champions but your logic that Australia weren’t the best team at the women’s t20 World Cup can be applied to England as well.



I completely agree with you and your point proves the case for what I have been saying all along. Thanks.

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:16 am
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Frank Costanza wrote:They finished 3rd after the group stage.
They were 1-1 v Australia in the tournament.
Lost to Sri Lanka and Pakistan who were both poor in the tournament.
Tied NZ in the final and only won on an obscure countback rule.
India were probably the best team in the tournament until the semi final when they choked.

You said yourself teams have to ride their luck and England certainly did - the extra runs they got in the final when the ball veered off Stokes’ bat and into the boundary (plus the extra run they got on that play when it should have only been 5 runs) is testament to that luck.

I’m not denying they’re the current world champions but your logic that Australia weren’t the best team at the women’s t20 World Cup can be applied to England as well.



I completely agree with you and your point proves the case for what I have been saying all along. Thanks.


So england were lucky by your own admission. About time you owned up.

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:19 am
by God is an Englishman
Michael wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Michael wrote:
Australia made the final, so your comment is invalid, again


How is it in invalid?



australia made the final, and won!
your comment is still invalid.


How is it invalid?

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:21 am
by God is an Englishman
Michael wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:
Cooper wrote:Despite it being obvious I doubt he will answer and make himself look more of a fool lol


He won't answer, pretty sure of that.

I also believe if he does then he can be shut down quite easily, he nornally is.



Wrong again, and please go ahead and shut me down, u bully
:roll:


As usual I am right, you have failed to answer the question.

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:24 am
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:
So england were lucky by your own admission. About time you owned up.



Keep up.




God is an Englishman wrote:all teams need some luck to win any major tournament.

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:31 pm
by Bomber
^ Lucky v "some luck" - I've lapped you already

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:14 pm
by God is an Englishman
Bomber wrote:^ Lucky v "some luck" - I've lapped you already



There it is and black and white I'm afraid. To get some luck, you must be lucky.

KEEP UP

Re: Women's T20 World Cup

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:53 pm
by Bomber
God is an Englishman wrote:
Bomber wrote:^ Lucky v "some luck" - I've lapped you already



There it is and black and white I'm afraid. To get some luck, you must be lucky.

KEEP UP


Lapped you a second time, so no need. Lucky means lucky 100% - some luck implies you had a bit of luck but not necessarily lucky overall.

Example for those who can only think black or white - Team A beats team B 5-0 but one of the goals was a wicked deflection so may have "had a bit of luck" - doesn't necessarily mean they were lucky to win. Kapish?