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Re: Convicts v South Africa

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C U Next Saturday wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:03 am
Cooper wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:00 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:51 am
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Considering the convict who were brought here were english then as i stated no confusion for me.
And they became the australian nation. I'm not surprised you're "confused", I'd be ashamed if my nation was just the prison of another nation.
So a bunch of english convict, glad you agree.
When did I agree?

They became the australian nation and became known as the convicts. Surely you POHMs can work this out.
They all started out as english when they were convicts, and considering the next generation would also be english too according to your previous statements on the matter, once they were Australian they were no longer convicts.

Nice try but the english were the convicts not the Australians. Its funny how you lot ignore those facts.

As an Australian i myself am not a convict so once again you are wrong.

Edit - looks like there are many other facts that back me up as well.

english = convicts. Simple facts are fun
The English bought over convicts then murdered the occupants of the land when they arrived ....
How can you live on stolen land? Don't you feel guilty about it?

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zzz wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:55 pm
C U Next Saturday wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:03 am
Cooper wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:00 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:51 am
Cooper wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:46 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:33 am

And they became the australian nation. I'm not surprised you're "confused", I'd be ashamed if my nation was just the prison of another nation.
So a bunch of english convict, glad you agree.
When did I agree?

They became the australian nation and became known as the convicts. Surely you POHMs can work this out.
They all started out as english when they were convicts, and considering the next generation would also be english too according to your previous statements on the matter, once they were Australian they were no longer convicts.

Nice try but the english were the convicts not the Australians. Its funny how you lot ignore those facts.

As an Australian i myself am not a convict so once again you are wrong.

Edit - looks like there are many other facts that back me up as well.

english = convicts. Simple facts are fun
The English bought over convicts then murdered the occupants of the land when they arrived ....
How can you live on stolen land? Don't you feel guilty about it?

Personally, i'm proud that we had the largest empire known to man.
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Re: Convicts v South Africa

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zzz wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:55 pm
C U Next Saturday wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:03 am
Cooper wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:00 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:51 am
Cooper wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:46 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:33 am

And they became the australian nation. I'm not surprised you're "confused", I'd be ashamed if my nation was just the prison of another nation.
So a bunch of english convict, glad you agree.
When did I agree?

They became the australian nation and became known as the convicts. Surely you POHMs can work this out.
They all started out as english when they were convicts, and considering the next generation would also be english too according to your previous statements on the matter, once they were Australian they were no longer convicts.

Nice try but the english were the convicts not the Australians. Its funny how you lot ignore those facts.

As an Australian i myself am not a convict so once again you are wrong.

Edit - looks like there are many other facts that back me up as well.

english = convicts. Simple facts are fun
The English bought over convicts then murdered the occupants of the land when they arrived ....
How can you live on stolen land? Don't you feel guilty about it?
Comfortably and no

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Cooper wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:42 am
zzz wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:55 pm
C U Next Saturday wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:03 am
Cooper wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:00 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:51 am
Cooper wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:46 am

So a bunch of english convict, glad you agree.
When did I agree?

They became the australian nation and became known as the convicts. Surely you POHMs can work this out.
They all started out as english when they were convicts, and considering the next generation would also be english too according to your previous statements on the matter, once they were Australian they were no longer convicts.

Nice try but the english were the convicts not the Australians. Its funny how you lot ignore those facts.

As an Australian i myself am not a convict so once again you are wrong.

Edit - looks like there are many other facts that back me up as well.

english = convicts. Simple facts are fun
The English bought over convicts then murdered the occupants of the land when they arrived ....
How can you live on stolen land? Don't you feel guilty about it?
Comfortably and no

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My question was posed to CUNS. ...and remains unanswered.

I don't know why others felt the need to answer.

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zzz wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:12 pm My question was posed to CUNS. ...and remains unanswered.

I don't know why others felt the need to answer.
Because you posted it on an open message board. DUH.

At least people answered, you don't.
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God is an Englishman wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:06 pm
zzz wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:12 pm My question was posed to CUNS. ...and remains unanswered.

I don't know why others felt the need to answer.
Because you posted it on an open message board. DUH.

At least people answered, you don't.
If I want to ask you a question I'll reply to your post, not someone else's, or I'll address you directly. This is basic forum etiquette.

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zzz wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:12 pm My question was posed to CUNS. ...and remains unanswered.

I don't know why others felt the need to answer.
Because you replied to a post that had nothing to do with you

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zzz wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:42 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:06 pm
zzz wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:12 pm My question was posed to CUNS. ...and remains unanswered.

I don't know why others felt the need to answer.
Because you posted it on an open message board. DUH.

At least people answered, you don't.
If I want to ask you a question I'll reply to your post, not someone else's, or I'll address you directly. This is basic forum etiquette.
Forum etiquette :lol:

Did you post it on an open message board?
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Nice series win against South Africa, just unfortunate we couldnt get a win in the last game.

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Cooper wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:12 pm Nice series win against South Africa, just unfortunate we couldnt get a win in the last game.
Batted too long

Batted too slowly
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God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:21 pm
Cooper wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:12 pm Nice series win against South Africa, just unfortunate we couldnt get a win in the last game.
Batted too long

Batted too slowly
Thanks for your opinion.

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Cooper wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:41 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:21 pm
Cooper wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:12 pm Nice series win against South Africa, just unfortunate we couldnt get a win in the last game.
Batted too long

Batted too slowly
Thanks for your opinion.
You're welcome.

It took England one day to score more runs that australia declared for on day 4. Many on here have moaned on here about low scoring rates. Do they have any comments now?
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God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:20 pm
Cooper wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:41 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:21 pm
Cooper wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:12 pm Nice series win against South Africa, just unfortunate we couldnt get a win in the last game.
Batted too long

Batted too slowly
Thanks for your opinion.
You're welcome.

It took england one day to score more runs that Australia declared for on day 4. Many on here have moaned on here about low scoring rates. Do they have any comments now?
england had a good day that day but its an anomaly not a regular occurrence.

Youd have to ask them

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Cooper wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:27 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:20 pm
Cooper wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:41 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:21 pm
Cooper wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:12 pm Nice series win against South Africa, just unfortunate we couldnt get a win in the last game.
Batted too long

Batted too slowly
Thanks for your opinion.
You're welcome.

It took england one day to score more runs that Australia declared for on day 4. Many on here have moaned on here about low scoring rates. Do they have any comments now?
england had a good day that day but its an anomaly not a regular occurrence.

Youd have to ask them

I already have, see above.
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God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:11 pm
Bomber wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:18 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:12 am
Bomber wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:55 am
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Bomber wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:54 am Result pitch at least. Saffers have a decent pace attack, therefore seems like no advantage either way, other than maybe winning the toss.

The pitch had a distinct advantage to australia. They've had a few tests this "summer" already going against a team with practically no time in the middle. A doctored bowling wicket definitely hands them an advantage.

34 wickets in under 2 days isn't good for anyone.

However, for the record. Australia are the home team. They produce the wocket that they want. It's called home advantage.

My issue is just that when other countries do the same, they complain it's doctoring.
Fiction. Saffers quick bowlers are probably their best weapon. That said curator said he erred in making it too green, but a simple coin toss could have changed the result of this game.
So, it's fiction that the aussies have played a few test matches in australia this summer and the s affers haven't?
No, it is fiction that the pitch had a distinct advantage to Australia.

Now can you tell me when a visiting nation has EVER played some test matches in that country before playing the home side?

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Bomber wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:25 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:11 pm
Bomber wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:18 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:12 am
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The pitch had a distinct advantage to australia. They've had a few tests this "summer" already going against a team with practically no time in the middle. A doctored bowling wicket definitely hands them an advantage.

34 wickets in under 2 days isn't good for anyone.

However, for the record. Australia are the home team. They produce the wocket that they want. It's called home advantage.

My issue is just that when other countries do the same, they complain it's doctoring.
Fiction. Saffers quick bowlers are probably their best weapon. That said curator said he erred in making it too green, but a simple coin toss could have changed the result of this game.
So, it's fiction that the aussies have played a few test matches in australia this summer and the s affers haven't?
No, it is fiction that the pitch had a distinct advantage to Australia.

Now can you tell me when a visiting nation has EVER played some test matches in that country before playing the home side?

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God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:27 pm
Bomber wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:25 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:11 pm
Bomber wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:18 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:12 am
Bomber wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:55 am

Fiction. Saffers quick bowlers are probably their best weapon. That said curator said he erred in making it too green, but a simple coin toss could have changed the result of this game.
So, it's fiction that the aussies have played a few test matches in australia this summer and the s affers haven't?
No, it is fiction that the pitch had a distinct advantage to Australia.

Now can you tell me when a visiting nation has EVER played some test matches in that country before playing the home side?

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I don't see how.
I'm not surprised given history of your vision.
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Bomber wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:06 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:27 pm
Bomber wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:25 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:11 pm
Bomber wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:18 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:12 am

So, it's fiction that the aussies have played a few test matches in australia this summer and the s affers haven't?
No, it is fiction that the pitch had a distinct advantage to Australia.

Now can you tell me when a visiting nation has EVER played some test matches in that country before playing the home side?

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:lol: thanks, shows my point quite well.
I don't see how.
I'm not surprised given history of your vision.
You asked a question, I answered it factually. What is your point?

The point is that australia had had many opportunities for time in the middle, SA hadn't. A doctored bowling wicket helps the team who've had more time in the middle.
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God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:10 am
Bomber wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:06 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:27 pm
Bomber wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:25 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:11 pm
Bomber wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:18 am

No, it is fiction that the pitch had a distinct advantage to Australia.

Now can you tell me when a visiting nation has EVER played some test matches in that country before playing the home side?

1912
:lol: thanks, shows my point quite well.
I don't see how.
I'm not surprised given history of your vision.
You asked a question, I answered it factually. What is your point?

The point is that australia had had many opportunities for time in the middle, SA hadn't. A doctored bowling wicket helps the team who've had more time in the middle.
Do all test pitches in Australia play the same ?

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C U Next Saturday wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:12 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:10 am
Bomber wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:06 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:27 pm
Bomber wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:25 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:11 pm


1912
:lol: thanks, shows my point quite well.
I don't see how.
I'm not surprised given history of your vision.
You asked a question, I answered it factually. What is your point?

The point is that australia had had many opportunities for time in the middle, SA hadn't. A doctored bowling wicket helps the team who've had more time in the middle.
Do all test pitches in Australia play the same ?
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God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:10 am
Bomber wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:06 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:27 pm
Bomber wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:25 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:11 pm
Bomber wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:18 am

No, it is fiction that the pitch had a distinct advantage to Australia.

Now can you tell me when a visiting nation has EVER played some test matches in that country before playing the home side?

1912
:lol: thanks, shows my point quite well.
I don't see how.
I'm not surprised given history of your vision.
You asked a question, I answered it factually. What is your point?

The point is that australia had had many opportunities for time in the middle, SA hadn't. A doctored bowling wicket helps the team who've had more time in the middle.
So next ashes series here, you want some test matches to be played here before the ashes actually commence? Will that make it fairer? You tour, you get a practice match or two and that's it nowadays. Suck it up.
As for doctored wicket........said before.........had SA won the toss the result could have been different.
Bottom line they were comprehensively outplayed
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Bomber wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:16 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:10 am
Bomber wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:06 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:27 pm
Bomber wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:25 pm
God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:11 pm


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:lol: thanks, shows my point quite well.
I don't see how.
I'm not surprised given history of your vision.
You asked a question, I answered it factually. What is your point?

The point is that australia had had many opportunities for time in the middle, SA hadn't. A doctored bowling wicket helps the team who've had more time in the middle.
So next ashes series here, you want some test matches to be played here before the ashes actually commence? Will that make it fairer? You tour, you get a practice match or two and that's it nowadays. Suck it up.
As for doctored wicket........said before.........had SA won the toss the result could have been different.
Bottom line they were comprehensively outplayed
It would be lovely to have some test matches here before hand. Can't see it happening though.

No, SA would have been rolled easily because it was a bowling track and they'd had little/no time in the middle. One game against a joke PM XI is not a decent warm up. As you have said, you get a couple of practice matches nowadays. you used to get 4 or 5. Makes sense to produce a bowling track if you've had plenty of time in the middle and they haven't.

It's funny that you seem to think that all countries doctor wickets apart from your own.
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God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:21 am
Bomber wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:16 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:10 am
Bomber wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:06 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:27 pm
Bomber wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:25 pm

:lol: thanks, shows my point quite well.
I don't see how.
I'm not surprised given history of your vision.
You asked a question, I answered it factually. What is your point?

The point is that australia had had many opportunities for time in the middle, SA hadn't. A doctored bowling wicket helps the team who've had more time in the middle.
So next ashes series here, you want some test matches to be played here before the ashes actually commence? Will that make it fairer? You tour, you get a practice match or two and that's it nowadays. Suck it up.
As for doctored wicket........said before.........had SA won the toss the result could have been different.
Bottom line they were comprehensively outplayed
It would be lovely to have some test matches here before hand. Can't see it happening though.

No, SA would have been rolled easily because it was a bowling track and they'd had little/no time in the middle. One game against a joke PM XI is not a decent warm up. As you have said, you get a couple of practice matches nowadays. you used to get 4 or 5. Makes sense to produce a bowling track if you've had plenty of time in the middle and they haven't.

It's funny that you seem to think that all countries doctor wickets apart from your own.
I have never said all countries doctor pitches. All our pitches are reasonably different, which is more than can be said in many other countries.
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Bomber wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:48 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:21 am
Bomber wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:16 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:10 am
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I don't see how.
I'm not surprised given history of your vision.
You asked a question, I answered it factually. What is your point?

The point is that australia had had many opportunities for time in the middle, SA hadn't. A doctored bowling wicket helps the team who've had more time in the middle.
So next ashes series here, you want some test matches to be played here before the ashes actually commence? Will that make it fairer? You tour, you get a practice match or two and that's it nowadays. Suck it up.
As for doctored wicket........said before.........had SA won the toss the result could have been different.
Bottom line they were comprehensively outplayed
It would be lovely to have some test matches here before hand. Can't see it happening though.

No, SA would have been rolled easily because it was a bowling track and they'd had little/no time in the middle. One game against a joke PM XI is not a decent warm up. As you have said, you get a couple of practice matches nowadays. you used to get 4 or 5. Makes sense to produce a bowling track if you've had plenty of time in the middle and they haven't.

It's funny that you seem to think that all countries doctor wickets apart from your own.
I have never said all countries doctor pitches. All our pitches are reasonably different, which is more than can be said in many other countries.
I will say it, ALL countries doctor pitches.

Your pitches are pretty much the same now.
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Re: Convicts v South Africa

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God is an Englishman wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:53 am
Bomber wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:48 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:21 am
Bomber wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:16 am
God is an Englishman wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:10 am
Bomber wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:06 am

I'm not surprised given history of your vision.
You asked a question, I answered it factually. What is your point?

The point is that australia had had many opportunities for time in the middle, SA hadn't. A doctored bowling wicket helps the team who've had more time in the middle.
So next ashes series here, you want some test matches to be played here before the ashes actually commence? Will that make it fairer? You tour, you get a practice match or two and that's it nowadays. Suck it up.
As for doctored wicket........said before.........had SA won the toss the result could have been different.
Bottom line they were comprehensively outplayed
It would be lovely to have some test matches here before hand. Can't see it happening though.

No, SA would have been rolled easily because it was a bowling track and they'd had little/no time in the middle. One game against a joke PM XI is not a decent warm up. As you have said, you get a couple of practice matches nowadays. you used to get 4 or 5. Makes sense to produce a bowling track if you've had plenty of time in the middle and they haven't.

It's funny that you seem to think that all countries doctor wickets apart from your own.
I have never said all countries doctor pitches. All our pitches are reasonably different, which is more than can be said in many other countries.
I will say it, ALL countries doctor pitches.

Your pitches are pretty much the same now.
So tell me do our pitches favour batsmen, quicks, or spinners? Just trying to work out how well we are doctoring them to favour us so much.
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